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There is a rule in Hermeneutics that cannot, ever, be bypassed.  It is; No scripture, collection of scripture nor passage of scripture can ever be fully understood without the light of all scripture shinning on it.

 

FYI:  The Bible is the book or scrolls Yashuah ha’Mashima, Paul, and the other disciples taught from or the first 39 books of the Christian Bible.  The following 27 books, misnamed the New Testament, are rightfully included in the Christian Version of the Bible because they, like the previous 39 are God spoken/authored and they are the only known God authored Life Application Commentaries of the Bible Jesus taught from, the Original 27 books chhristians split into 39.

 

Now the problem with people’s outlook on Predestination.  You have not considered all of scripture to have reached this old, old, Baptist position that is so in error but is widely held.  I am a Southern Baptist that, because of the late stage of my MS can never take the pulpit again but we must never forget that rule of Hermeneutics.  And since Jesus has authored/inspired every word of the Christian Bible, we must also, in our study of the Hermeneutics of the scriptures remember that the Bible we hold in our hands is in all essence from, "In the beginning..." through the very last word of Revelation 22 is of one context and with a single message, Salvation.

 

With all of that said, Predestination;  To understand the predestination spoken of in the Word of God we must go back to before what we know as the beginning, beyond the Creation of the world, the animals and of the creation of man.  God created every bit of the Universe we live in. (Genesis 1-3 and John 1:1-5)  God also created this Space/Time Continuum we live in!  This places God outside of that Continuum in the very Beginning.

 

There are two attributes of God taught in the scriptures that are essential for understanding; 1. God is Omnipotent and 2. God is Omniscient.  The first means there is nothing God cannot do if it is His will to do it and the second means God is present no matter where we go!

 

In dealing with this it can be hard to wrap the head around but before God created this Time/Space Continuum, He was only found outside of it giving Time no bearing on Him.  As such God could write the Book of Life, Predestination, because, though He is here, He is also, right now, in the past and He is also, right this second, in the future and has always been.

 

It makes the head want to scream, "NO!"  But if we remember Those two key elements of God's Character, His Being, it can be no other way because the Perfect Will of God is that none should perish but should come to repentance and to live forever, in Fellowship with Him. (2Pet 3:9) 

 

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OLD(3 letters) TESTAMENT (9 letters) = 39 Books.

NEW(3 letters) TESTAMENT (9 letters) = 3 x 9 = 27 Books.

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On 6/1/2018 at 11:27 PM, Bill Taylor said:

There is a rule in Hermeneutics that cannot, ever, be bypassed.  It is; No scripture, collection of scripture nor passage of scripture can ever be fully understood without the light of all scripture shinning on it.

 

FYI:  The Bible is the book or scrolls Yashuah ha’Mashima, Paul, and the other disciples taught from or the first 39 books of the Christian Bible.  The following 27 books, misnamed the New Testament, are rightfully included in the Christian Version of the Bible because they, like the previous 39 are God spoken/authored and they are the only known God authored Life Application Commentaries of the Bible Jesus taught from, the Original 27 books chhristians split into 39.

 

Now the problem with people’s outlook on Predestination.  You have not considered all of scripture to have reached this old, old, Baptist position that is so in error but is widely held.  I am a Southern Baptist that, because of the late stage of my MS can never take the pulpit again but we must never forget that rule of Hermeneutics.  And since Jesus has authored/inspired every word of the Christian Bible, we must also, in our study of the Hermeneutics of the scriptures remember that the Bible we hold in our hands is in all essence from, "In the beginning..." through the very last word of Revelation 22 is of one context and with a single message, Salvation.

 

With all of that said, Predestination;  To understand the predestination spoken of in the Word of God we must go back to before what we know as the beginning, beyond the Creation of the world, the animals and of the creation of man.  God created every bit of the Universe we live in. (Genesis 1-3 and John 1:1-5)  God also created this Space/Time Continuum we live in!  This places God outside of that Continuum in the very Beginning.

 

There are two attributes of God taught in the scriptures that are essential for understanding; 1. God is Omnipotent and 2. God is Omniscient.  The first means there is nothing God cannot do if it is His will to do it and the second means God is present no matter where we go!

 

In dealing with this it can be hard to wrap the head around but before God created this Time/Space Continuum, He was only found outside of it giving Time no bearing on Him.  As such God could write the Book of Life, Predestination, because, though He is here, He is also, right now, in the past and He is also, right this second, in the future and has always been.

 

It makes the head want to scream, "NO!"  But if we remember Those two key elements of God's Character, His Being, it can be no other way because the Perfect Will of God is that none should perish but should come to repentance and to live forever, in Fellowship with Him. (2Pet 3:9

 

Forgive me but I am a little confused and having a hard time understanding what point you are trying to make? Can you break it down a little bit? What exactly are you arguing for or against?

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On 10/10/2018 at 12:01 PM, davidtaylorjr said:

Forgive me but I am a little confused and having a hard time understanding what point you are trying to make? Can you break it down a little bit? What exactly are you arguing for or against?

When questions are asked for guidence in a matter, guidence is required but never does any question or request need to be forgiven.  Thank you for the logical question.

 

Folks are Biblically Ignorant today and because they chose the wrong path and followed that path for to many years, they swallow many lies and are far to busy digging their way into the Lake of Fire, following another gospel, Herocy.

 

Before I made The Christ Lord of my life, I could, by using verses of the Bible, taken out of context, prove the most absurd things to be true.  After all, the Holly Scriptures said it!

 

My mission, directed and taught to me by Ruah, the Holy Spirit, is to help folks tften, masquerading as a New Revelation, New Testament Church, teaching such things as, "New Converts never sin again and doing such things as breaking the Speed Limit is not a sin to be repented of," coupled with people such as the LDS teaching, *men become gods at death," it they remain a Morman, wear their Holy Underwear to Services and ascend into the upper levels of their church.

 

These hericies can only be taaught by dividing the Word of YHWH into segments and that is not YHWH'a message.  The point is simple and not complicated.  There are many Satan Approved methods of study but to the Surrendered Saints/Bond Servants of YHWH, there is on!y one Triune God Heàd, composed of YHWH, Yashuah ha'Mashiah and Ruah,

 

The only true teacher of God and His ways and it is not some mystery to be pondered but it does require complete Faith and it requires total Surrender to YHWH.

 

Sorry for the delay but as I near the end of this journey, I am often  sleeping off some pain or another and my response time lags and I tend to flounder.

 

Praying for you and your family.

 

 

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