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I always thought I was, until Origen said I believed in Sabellianism. I've never heard that term.


After reading it, no I don't see it as unbiblical. I see it as an attempt to explain the nature of God. After reading a definition of Sabellianism, I didn't really get what they meant by God as three "modes". Personally, I believe God appeared as the Person we know as Jesus. In other words, the Holy Spirit with a covering of flesh. Aditionally, I have no formal education and I know I believe in Jesus.


I hope I cleared it up for you. I would like to add I reject the beliefs which have to be known as "Calvinism"....

That explains nothing.

Being fine with a belief is not the standard by which doctrines are to be understood or judged. The only thing that matter is if it is biblical. Anyone and everyone who ever held a heretical doctrine was fine with his\her belief. That is nothing new....

Please refrain from posting in this thread until we clear up the other.

God bless,
William...

What does that mean William, I have anything to worry about? Is it your position that if someone disagrees with your view about how God leads people to Himself, or if someone disagrees with your view of how Jesus is God he should be worried?...

Journeyman,

Why are you so deliberately vague? Why do you not answer direct questions clearly? Are you a Trinitarian? Yes or no?

There is a question now as to whether you're Christian let alone a saved one. The question is not whether you hold a theology degree, but whether there is an issue with willful ignorance or flat out rejection of the Trinity?

We're not asking you to lay out a dissertation of the Trinity. However, there are essentials which are outlined in the Nicene Creed.

Is there any part of the Creed you do not agree? Do you consider the truths conveyed by the Creed unbiblical?



Why are we concerned? Because you continually demonstrate a lack of comprehension and refuse to stop "teaching". We have red flags reported from people here concerned about Christian essentials. We have children at young ages that read this board. We are concerned that your teaching is false.

You can...

God in three Persons.


Thanks Origen. I'm fine with my belief that God Who is the Holy Spirit appeared as Christ. Btw, why was Robertus banned?...

Sabellianism, or modalism which is nontrinitarian I guess....

Creeds (formal statements of Christian belief) have fallen on hard times. Many Christians are uncomfortable with such objection proclamations of the exclusive Christian truth claims. But, the Christian worldview has always been a “confessional” worldview. It has been grounded in the reliable record of eyewitnesses who confessed what they saw related to the person of Jesus Christ, advanced by believers who repeated the testimony of the apostles, and continues to flourish based on the confession of those who believe. Christian Scripture reiterates the importance of confessing the truth about God and the truth about Jesus:

Romans 10:9-10
That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

Hebrews 13:15-16
Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer...

You have more things to worry about than the TULIP.

Please address whether you're Trinitarian here: The Good News: a Modern Christian Apology - Christforums

God bless,
William...

If any doctrine makes Christianity Christian, then surely it is the doctrine of the Trinity. The three great ecumenical creeds—the Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed—are all structured around our three in one God, underlying the essential importance of Trinitarian theology. Augustine once commented about the Trinity that “in no other subject is error more dangerous, or inquiry more laborious, or the discovery of truth more profitable.” More recently, Sinclair Ferguson has reflected on “the rather obvious thought that when his disciples were about to have the world collapse in on them, our Lord spent so much time in the Upper Room speaking to them about the mystery of the Trinity. If anything could underline the necessity of Trinitarianism for practical Christianity, that must surely be it!”

Yet, when it comes to the doctrine of the Trinity, most Christians are poor in their understanding, poorer in their articulation, and poorest of all...

Many christians believe that all translations of the Bible contain errors. If ALL translations of the Bible contain errors where is the truth?

This is one of the most raised questions by our atheist brothers. Most of them, basing on this, seem to have resolved to become non-believers after being unable to get the appropriate answer.

Honestly, I think about this every other day-how do we really know that indeed the God we believe in we as Christians is the one to be worshiped ? Why not the god in the Muslim context or any other world religions?...

Faith alone ? This is a phrase i"ve heard often , but i'm not sure i understand what it means. I want to start a discussion about Faith , and the Salvation process. But before i do , could someone who knows about "Faith alone" , tell me what it means?

Just curious what people's thoughts are on the miracle at Fatima in 1917? A quick summary of the facts:

• 3 young children claimed a "lady from heaven" appeared out of nowhere in a remote field in Portugal where they were watching their animals, and the lady gave them a Catholic related message to relay to the people where they lived. This lady also told the children to meet her in this same location on the 13th of the month for the next 5 months at the same time where she would tell them more. Of course no one believed the children when they returned home with this news, and it caused a massive stir in their town.
• The 3 children returned the following month, and many curious people came along with them. The children again claimed to see and speak with this "lady from heaven", but other bystanders could not see her. Since no one would believe the children, the lady told the children in July that she would perform a miracle on her last visit (Oct 13, 1917) so as "to

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In a discussion about Perseverance of the Saints someone dropped a bomb of a quote. Made me think in that moment the difference between "Perseverance of the Saints" and "Once Saved Always Saved":

“No man living is perfectly assured of God’s love, or is so certain, that he cannot be made more certain.” –Daniel Burgess (1645–1713) The Marks of a Godly Man

God bless,
William

On another thread I asked the following question: "Why were those from Adam to Moses dying? Were they dying because the law condemned them to death? No, the law had yet to been posted by God on Mount Sinai. Therefore "sin is not imputed when there is no law" (Rom 5:13). Then why were they dying?

Answer: Because all men share Adam's fallen life indwelt with sin and therefore stand disqualified for heaven and eternal life.

This leads to another question: If there's nothing good in our flesh then why do some Christians teach that something goes to heaven upon the death of the believer?

Let's look at Acts 2:29 “Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. ...34 For David did not ascend into the heavens.

David was a man of God. He was a believer, yet we clearly see from Scripture that he did not enter heaven upon his death. Why?...

When I discuss evolution with some fellow Christians, I often get in response "You either believe in science or God".

In my experiences serving as youth leader at our church, I can't tell you how many times I've seen middle schoolers, teenagers, and young Christians struggle with this issue. Interestingly, it's almost exclusively the ones from conservative households that have the most problems. They've been raised and taught in a "you have to pick one or the other" environment. And most often they've also been fed creationist talking points like "there are no transitional fossils", "evolution is never observed", "mutations can't add information", and the like, but when they start taking biology courses they quickly find out that those talking points simply aren't true....transitional fossils exist by the thousands, we see populations evolve all the time, mutations adding information is as common as rain, and so on. So now...

I never really understood protestants hostility towards Marian doctrines. There is not a single Marian doctrine that does not center and hinge on Jesus Himself. They are all Christocentric. To downplay her role and status is a direct effrontery to Jesus Himself. I don't go to Mary unless it was Jesus whom I was trying to get to ultimately. She is as much of a help, as Abraham helped, Noah, Moses, the prophets were in bringing souls back to God. Mary does not save souls, God does but God has deigned to make Mary someone whom we can come to for help. The power with which she can intercede for us comes from Christ Himself. She does nothing on her own. Her own sinless life has given her the privilege to be very close to God. Our veneration and prayers do not amount to deifying her.

If Jesus was whom all we ever needed then why did God use so many outstanding people in salvation history to get his message across? Why do through the incarnation? Why bother using Mary's body and...

I was told that I was required to work today and I called in and said that I would not work because I guard the 10 commandments. I live in an "at will" state and have a high probability of being fired for doing this, but I believe that I have done the right thing at this time. If I have not done the right thing, why is this so and where can it be found in scripture? My interpretation of what Jesus spoke against was not the law of Moses, but against the ridiculous additions that were made to it by the scribes and Pharisees. I also know that the Sabbath day (or seventh day) was created before the law of Moses.

The Sabbath day appears to be a gift from the most high to mankind for rest and for learning about God (Jesus taught in the tabernacle on the Sabbath day routinely, and this is why I want to learn about the Sabbath day now), and it feels wrong to deny a gift from God.

From the dying embers of faith, via atheism and evolutionary compromise, to a rock solid confidence in biblical creation and Scripture-one man's fascinating journey.

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Christforums' staff has been dealing with issues from problem children which are rejecting the essential doctrines of Christiandom. We'd like to take this time to address our focus and direction of an online community. First, this is a Christian Protestant Community which encourages fellowship within the body of Christ. Second, by definition we are Christian and "denominational" because we profess certain non negotiable essentials. The Ecumenical Creeds on the community's belief page are...

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II. The first covenant made with man was a covenant of works,[2] wherein life was promised...

I. Our first parents, being seduced by the subtilty and temptations of Satan, sinned, in eating the forbidden fruit.[1] This their sin, God was pleased, according to His wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to order it to His own glory.[2]

II. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion, with God,[3] and so became dead in sin,[4] and wholly...

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