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Hello everyone, I've recently decided to return to Christianity. I was raised Pentecostal but left at the age of 16. I've returned after living extremely worldly for 6 years. I admit that I returned because of the consequences of my heineous sins. Now all I think about is that God won't forgive me because I feel like I committed apostasy and I am like Esau who wasn't granted repentance. I just feel like Gods wrath is gonna come on me no matter what. I just wanted to ask if apoastates can be forgiven? Or is it just too late for me? I know the sins that I committed and I know that renounced Christianity and even when I was a Pentecostal I didn't really believe I just went because my family did. I pray that God regenerates my heart and mind. It's only been 3 weeks since I repented and decided to attend a baptist church. I would greatly appreciate the help and advice. God bless.

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JD, thank you for sharing your experience. Repentance can be a hard thing to do especially if you have been carnal for a long time. This has to be a difficult transition, to learn to follow Jesus teachings and aplying them anew. I am glad to know you feel the need to get involved with other Followers of Christ Jesus. That is vital to associate with others like minded believers. I personally have been involved with a baptist church from my earliest memory as a child. I can't remember a time that I was not in Sunday School and Church as a child and in to adulthood. I was 37 when I received a Call to Ministry and started Christian College and ten into Seminary. We had four children back then and both my wife and me did this together. The Lord Jesus was with us in this journey. I was the pastor of four churches and even went on 7 mission trips. Now retired my wife and are still Southern Baptist.Of course suggest that church with caution, not all churches teach and preach the Genuine Gospel. So not matter what the brabd of Baptist you need to carefully check each church out wisely.

 

So JD you now are ready to Walk and Follow jesus fully, great to hear. Me and others here are always willing to help in any way we can, God bless you and the BEST choice you could ever make. God bless.

 

 

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Hello everyone, I've recently decided to return to Christianity. I was raised Pentecostal but left at the age of 16. I've returned after living extremely worldly for 6 years. I admit that I returned because of the consequences of my heineous sins. Now all I think about is that God won't forgive me because I feel like I committed apostasy and I am like Esau who wasn't granted repentance. I just feel like Gods wrath is gonna come on me no matter what. I just wanted to ask if apoastates can be forgiven? Or is it just too late for me? I know the sins that I committed and I know that renounced Christianity and even when I was a Pentecostal I didn't really believe I just went because my family did. I pray that God regenerates my heart and mind. It's only been 3 weeks since I repented and decided to attend a baptist church. I would greatly appreciate the help and advice. God bless.

 

Great to hear you returned to Christ for salvation. He is merciful and very forgiving. In the Holy Scriptures he forgave the apostle Paul who persecuted Christians. He forgave murder, adultery,... He forgave Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon. If you truly repent and accept the Lord as your personal Savior you will be saved.

 

God Bless! I will pray for you.

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JD, thank you for sharing your experience. Repentance can be a hard thing to do especially if you have been carnal for a long time. This has to be a difficult transition, to learn to follow Jesus teachings and aplying them anew. I am glad to know you feel the need to get involved with other Followers of Christ Jesus. That is vital to associate with others like minded believers. I personally have been involved with a baptist church from my earliest memory as a child. I can't remember a time that I was not in Sunday School and Church as a child and in to adulthood. I was 37 when I received a Call to Ministry and started Christian College and ten into Seminary. We had four children back then and both my wife and me did this together. The Lord Jesus was with us in this journey. I was the pastor of four churches and even went on 7 mission trips. Now retired my wife and are still Southern Baptist.Of course suggest that church with caution, not all churches teach and preach the Genuine Gospel. So not matter what the brabd of Baptist you need to carefully check each church out wisely.

 

So JD you now are ready to Walk and Follow jesus fully, great to hear. Me and others here are always willing to help in any way we can, God bless you and the BEST choice you could ever make. God bless.

 

justme

 

Thanks I appreciate you taking time to give your personal testimony.

 

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Hello everyone, I've recently decided to return to Christianity. I was raised Pentecostal but left at the age of 16. I've returned after living extremely worldly for 6 years. I admit that I returned because of the consequences of my heineous sins. Now all I think about is that God won't forgive me because I feel like I committed apostasy and I am like Esau who wasn't granted repentance. I just feel like Gods wrath is gonna come on me no matter what. I just wanted to ask if apoastates can be forgiven? Or is it just too late for me? I know the sins that I committed and I know that renounced Christianity and even when I was a Pentecostal I didn't really believe I just went because my family did. I pray that God regenerates my heart and mind. It's only been 3 weeks since I repented and decided to attend a baptist church. I would greatly appreciate the help and advice. God bless.

 

You need to read the prodigal son. Who left and squandered his inheritance with foolish living.

 

 

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Did you profess Jesus as Savior the first time around? If you did, God's wrath "ain't gonna com on yew," believe me. You confessed Him as Savior and He embraced you for eternity. (Pardon my French ..... just wanting to lighten things up a tad).

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Did you profess Jesus as Savior the first time around? If you did, God's wrath "ain't gonna com on yew," believe me. You confessed Him as Savior and He embraced you for eternity. (Pardon my French ..... just wanting to lighten things up a tad).

 

When I was a kid? I did but I didn't really mean it I said it cause I was told too

 

2 weeks ago I did again and I meant it

But I still feel this irrational fear you know? Like I'm beyond mercy

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You aren't beyond mercy. You are smack-dab in the middle of mercy. Your fear is not Scriptural. You are Spiritually birthed, born again, safe and secure: Romans 8:1, John 5:24, Ephesians 2:8-9, John 3:16-17, among many others. Be at peace ---- HIS Peace!!!

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When I was a kid? I did but I didn't really mean it I said it cause I was told too

 

2 weeks ago I did again and I meant it

But I still feel this irrational fear you know? Like I'm beyond mercy

 

G'everning JD, and welcome to Christforums.

 

Do you think you were acting emotionally now rather than rationally?

 

On another note, if you want my advice, confess, repent and move on. I had a severe addiction that took me 15 years to overcome. I kept confessing my sin, repenting, and moving on. I felt very much like you have expressed during that time. I am thankful today that Jesus' atonement and propitiation were greater than any of my sins.

 

People may backslide sometime, but your a fine example of someone that keeps coming back. The saints shall persevere to the very end.

 

God bless,

William

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G'everning JD, and welcome to Christforums.

 

Do you think you were acting emotionally now rather than rationally?

 

On another note, if you want my advice, confess, repent and move on. I had a severe addiction that took me 15 years to overcome. I kept confessing my sin, repenting, and moving on. I felt very much like you have expressed during that time. I am thankful today that Jesus' atonement and propitiation were greater than any of my sins.

 

People may backslide sometime, but your a fine example of someone that keeps coming back. The saints shall persevere to the very end.

 

God bless,

William

Thanks William, well there was a threat to my life or still is because of that sin(s) I committed. That night had all the signs of doom. A black cat and other things. Since that night I felt like crossed over to being doomed wether or not this threat those come true I still feel like God just cut the line. Know I have repented as it's been a month since that night and have gone to church. Started to to read the Bible. So I don't think it's irrational. I vacillate between being saved now and in Gods hand to just being at the end of life wether it be because of that threat or because God is somehow just bring calamity on my life. Thanks

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Thanks William, well there was a threat to my life or still is because of that sin(s) I committed. That night had all the signs of doom. A black cat and other things. Since that night I felt like crossed over to being doomed wether or not this threat those come true I still feel like God just cut the line. Know I have repented as it's been a month since that night and have gone to church. Started to to read the Bible. So I don't think it's irrational. I vacillate between being saved now and in Gods hand to just being at the end of life wether it be because of that threat or because God is somehow just bring calamity on my life. Thanks

 

In Christ there is no condemnation. No wrath, but God does chastise those He loves.

 

Personally, if something convicts my conscience then I turn to introspection. I examine what I had done in hindsight and I learn from what I did through the promptings of the Holy Spirit to my conscience. The conscience can be used, in my opinion, as a way for the devil and God to work. God forgives us and alleviates our conscience suffering. On the other hand, the devil may convict us of past sins too, making us paralyzed or worse yet numb to conscience convictions from the Holy Spirit.

 

I pray for you. And I pray you have an increased understanding of Scripture as you turn the pages of the contained books. With increased understanding I believe you'll have more assurance of your salvation. Remember, God softens the hearts of His people, and He hardens the reprobate. The fact that you're demonstrating guilt tells me that your heart is being softened towards God. And a desire that was not there has been like a dying amber flamed to a fire.

 

God bless,

William

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In Christ there is no condemnation. No wrath, but God does chastise those He loves.

 

Personally, if something convicts my conscience then I turn to introspection. I examine what I had done in hindsight and I learn from what I did through the promptings of the Holy Spirit to my conscience. The conscience can be used, in my opinion, as a way for the devil and God to work. God forgives us and alleviates our conscience suffering. On the other hand, the devil may convict us of past sins too, making us paralyzed or worse yet numb to conscience convictions from the Holy Spirit.

 

I pray for you. And I pray you have an increased understanding of Scripture as you turn the pages of the contained books. With increased understanding I believe you'll have more assurance of your salvation. Remember, God softens the hearts of His people, and He hardens the reprobate. The fact that you're demonstrating guilt tells me that your heart is being softened towards God. And a desire that was not there has been like a dying amber flamed to a fire.

 

God bless,

William

 

Thanks William I greatly appreciate your advice. God bless you

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When I was a kid? I did but I didn't really mean it I said it cause I was told too

 

2 weeks ago I did again and I meant it

But I still feel this irrational fear you know? Like I'm beyond mercy

 

JD, By what you said you earlier confession of faith was just words. Now as I understand it's real and genuine and you are going to become a true "FOLLOWER" of Jesus Christ. iF THAT IS CORRECT AS i JUST STATED, YOU NEED TO BE "BAPTIZED" gIVE THIS SOME SOUL SEARCHING AND PRAY THEN ACT ON THIS. bLESSINGS.

 

 

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Have you read the prodigal son. Luke 15:11-32 I could have sworn that I posted it earlier

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JD, By what you said you earlier confession of faith was just words. Now as I understand it's real and genuine and you are going to become a true "FOLLOWER" of Jesus Christ. iF THAT IS CORRECT AS i JUST STATED, YOU NEED TO BE "BAPTIZED" gIVE THIS SOME SOUL SEARCHING AND PRAY THEN ACT ON THIS. bLESSINGS.

 

 

JUSTME

 

I was baptized at the age of 14, will need to get baptized again or not?

Also since I got baptized at that age does that actually means that I did confirm that I believe the faith? (I got baptized at 14 even though inside I did not want too but because I was told to.)

 

Thanks so much

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I was baptized at the age of 14, will need to get baptized again or not?

Also since I got baptized at that age does that actually means that I did confirm that I believe the faith? (I got baptized at 14 even though inside I did not want too but because I was told to.)

 

Thanks so much

 

Which denomination did you belong? And do you know why you were baptized? In other words, were you baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit, and did you receive the sign, seal, and/or mark of baptism?

 

If so, there is no need to re-baptize. Re-baptism communicates doubt. Have assurance that your original baptism was legitimate and have faith in God for your salvation.

 

God bless,

William

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Which denomination did you belong? And do you know why you were baptized? In other words, were you baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit, and did you receive the sign, seal, and/or mark of baptism?

 

If so, there is no need to re-baptize. Re-baptism communicates doubt. Have assurance that your original baptism was legitimate and have faith in God in your salvation.

 

God bless,

William

 

I was baptized as an infant in the Roman Catholic Church which I no longer belong to. Would you suggest that I become baptized again? I've gone back and forth with this question with myself.

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I was baptized as an infant in the Roman Catholic Church which I no longer belong to. Would you suggest that I become baptized again? I've gone back and forth with this question with myself.

 

Hi CDF,

 

This is a very complex question. Being baptized as an infant is very scriptural in a household or covenant context. However, baptismal regeneration as practiced by the Catholics and Lutherans is somewhat controversial in Christiandom. In my opinion, as long as you know your baptism did not result in your salvation then you're completely fine, as the Catholics even baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Likewise, your baptism was an initiation into the catholic (universal) Church in a covenant relationship. No matter which local congregation you belong to you still belong to the visible catholic Church. You had at the time of your bapstism then received the mark, sign, and later the seal when you placed your trust in Christ alone. In other words, you received one baptism. In your baptism you as a child of God were marked and set apart from unbelievers through a covenant relationship 1 Corinthians 7:14:

 

Ephesians 4:5-6 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

The Nicene Creed reads,

 

And we believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins.

 

This means that as the Body of Christ, we all have this in common. This is something all denominations agree.

 

To note, the timing of remission of sins was not guaranteed at the time of your baptism and was not so annexed to it that by grace you could not be regenerated without it.

 

If you would like to read more on this subject just search the forum under covenant and baptism categories. There you will find subjects related to household and covenant baptism and even baptismal regeneration.

 

In my opinion, don't let the Baptist convince you to rebaptize. Again, they'll communicates nothing but doubt. As long as you were baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit it is legit. Read, Matthew 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." You were made a disciple, and Scripture nowhere says that you need or should rebaptize again after you understand more deeply or you are hit by the light of a revelation. Have faith, and understand baptism does not save us, but rather God's monergistic works alone saves us.

 

God bless,

William

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Which denomination did you belong? And do you know why you were baptized? In other words, were you baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit, and did you receive the sign, seal, and/or mark of baptism?

 

If so, there is no need to re-baptize. Re-baptism communicates doubt. Have assurance that your original baptism was legitimate and have faith in God in your salvation.

 

God bless,

William

 

I was baptized as a Pentecostal. And yes I was baptized in the holy trinity.

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Hi CDF,

 

This is a very complex question. Being baptized as an infant is very scriptural in a household or covenant context. However, baptismal regeneration as practiced by the Catholics and Lutherans is somewhat controversial in Christiandom. In my opinion, as long as you know your baptism did not result in your salvation then you're completely fine, as the Catholics even baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Likewise, your baptism was an initiation into the catholic (universal) Church in a covenant relationship. No matter which local congregation you belong to you still belong to the visible catholic Church. You had at the time of your bapstism then received the mark, sign, and later the seal when you placed your trust in Christ alone. In other words, you received one baptism. In your baptism you as a child of God were marked and set apart from unbelievers through a covenant relationship 1 Corinthians 7:14:

 

Ephesians 4:5-6 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

The Nicene Creed reads,

 

And we believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins.

 

This means that as the Body of Christ, we all have this in common. This is something all denominations agree.

 

To note, the timing of remission of sins was not guaranteed now at the time of your baptism and was not so annexed to it that by grace you could not be regenerated without it.

 

If you would like to read more on this subject just search the forum under covenant and baptism categories. There you will find subjects related to household and covenant baptism and even baptismal regeneration.

 

In my opinion, don't let the baptist convince you to rebaptize. Again, it communicates nothing but doubt. As long as you were baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit it is legit. Read, Matthew 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." You were made a disciple, and Scripture nowhere says that you need or should rebaptize again after you understand more deeply or you are hit by the light of a revelation. Have faith, and do not doubt baptism does not save, God's monergistic works alone saves us.

 

God bless,

William

 

Okay I just want to know if I'm forgiven? It is hard for me to believe at times specially with the threats.

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Okay I just want to know if I'm forgiven? It is hard for me to believe at times specially with the threats.

 

It is your faith in Christ alone that needs to assure you of your forgiveness. It is not your faith in yourself, but in the object of your faith Christ Jesus that saves you. You just need to believe in Him.

 

What kind of threats are you receiving, and from who are these threats coming from?

 

God bless,

William

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Anyway we can talk privately?

 

You can send me a private message. Click messages top right "messages", or under my picture here next to my name is a icon which will private message me.

 

God bless,

William

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It's says message is to short to save

 

I'm sending you a message by which you can respond. On top right of your screen you should see that you have a message waiting for you to open. Click messages, then a drop down will appear with your latest message. Click it and a window or private messenger will appear.

 

God bless,

William

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