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Almost all of my life, I have been seeing varied versions of the daily horoscopes in many newspapers and magazines. I have always been thinking to myself that even though many people may have similar birth signs their situations are never generally similar, therefore, if these is going to be a one reading for all these people, it could not be right. There is that uses previous day's horoscope reading broadcast on a certain'days reading is not available. This is sending a message that these reading are possibly not credible.

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Almost all of my life, I have been seeing varied versions of the daily horoscopes in many newspapers and magazines. I have always been thinking to myself that even though many people may have similar birth signs their situations are never generally similar, therefore, if these is going to be a one reading for all these people, it could not be right. There is that uses previous day's horoscope reading broadcast on a certain'days reading is not available. This is sending a message that these reading are possibly not credible.
I draw your attention to Bertram R. Forer.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertram_Forer

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect

 

http://apsychoserver.psych.arizona.edu/JJBAReprints/PSYC621/Forer_The%20fallacy%20of%20personal%20validation_1949.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There is good reason to believe horoscopes in newspapers and magazines are as accurate as fortune cookies.

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It's hard to believe in these types of things because these people that claim to be able to read your future claim to have their very own powers. If there was some sort of religious backing, maybe people sent by God then it would make it a bit easier to believe but for me I'm skeptical. It's weird though because sometimes you read a horoscope and it gets several factors about you or your day right but the way they have been written it is quite vague and in a way that it could be applied to a lot of people. It's one of those things, it doesn't affect anybody that much so it doesn't matter if you believe it or not to be honest.

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While astrology and generally celestial bodies were very important for various denominations of believers since the times of the Old Testament, referred to as hokmat ha-nissayon, "the wisdom of prognostication" by the Hebrew ,technichally its direct use for divination (any plain old future telling) is forbidden in the Bible.

However, I'm very sceptical about the version of astrology we are spoon-fed today. A lot of it has been arbitrarily changed or freely intepreted over the time, to the extent of being nothing like the art that mystics practiced. While I respect that there's cultures and religious denominations out there that use the paradigm of astrology to seek their inner peace, today what we see as "astrology" is nothing more than hollow divination either for the sake of entertainment or for the misled belief that these divinations hold some deep meaning. The number of astrologists who actually know what it is that they are practicing are very few, so even if it were withing the margins of my faith, the inconsistency alone does a lot to undermine a horoscope's credibility.

All in all, I'm not thrilled to flip to the zodiac collumn of a magazine.

 

There is an underlying danger from a spiritual standpoint, when one dwells too much on divination, whether it's against or within one's beliefs. As practical as it sounds to know the future, it's very easy to fall into the pitafal of tailoring your whole life and choices around something which was meant to be a tool. That's the case with many people who hold too little faith in the Lord's plan or even in themselves (if we want to be more general about it). In that case, what would happen to the questioner if they missintepreted the signs somehow? Clinging to something like that can be a recipe for dissaster.

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There is good reason to believe horoscopes in newspapers and magazines are as accurate as fortune cookies.

I've worked in media and the media love them because they are cheap, easily written, space fillers that can earn money through phone calls. From the point of view of the people who publish the columns, predicting the future accurately for everyone who reads the paper in 100 or less words is not, shall we say, the main focus. Instead they are written to be vague and generic so that people can easily adapt the words to fit their circumstances e.g. "You will face a challenge today and overcome it" What day don't you deal with challenges? The real risk is to the credible and desperate who look for guidance in the wrong places and can end up spending far too much on premium rate lines to get their "personal reading" which is often pre-recorded.

 

Jeremiah 10:2 has a line on the topic, and how Christians should view signs in the heavens.

 

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No, I sure don't. Of all the mystical woo-woo nonsense, horoscopes rank pretty high on the nonsense scale. I just don't take any stock in them. God in charge, so there is no need to read what vague prophecies a huckster scribbled out.

 

Only slightly less silly is the practice in some parts, including here, of "planting by the signs". That is sewing by the astrological signs. It is still nonsense and I prefer to do our growing by common sense, good agricultural practice and, naturally, the will of the Lord.

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Hi, Explorerx7 I don't believe in horoscope, I never did! I have a friend that reads the newspaper, the first section he reads is horoscope, it obsesses him! Horoscopes may be fun to read, but it is honestly so generalized that it could relate to anyone. Nothing and no one can tell you what your future holds because it is something that is not set in stone. It's all based on the choices we make and how we react to things.

Horoscopes are a great hobby for people who have nothing to believe in and for those who like constellations and stars, but not for me.

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I believe that horoscopes are made to be generic so when you read it you can find yourself in it. Of course, that goes for the "general sign" horoscope, not that daily ones. I don't believe in the daily ones because it all seems like they just randomly choose stuff to write about signs for that day.

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I don't have much belief in horoscopes even though I listen to it for my mom's happiness. She is a very strong believer and sometimes she tortures me with that. I mean how can they predict our future so accurately and tells us that this is what is going to happen. She said I have to get married by this year as per my astronomical signs and if not I will never be married again she told. This is so hard for me to believe and accept.

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Thought this was funny and might relate:

 

I was having some Chinese food at the mall with my friend, because that's what you eat at the mall, and I read my "zodiac."

 

You probably know what I'm talking about. Based on what year you were born, you are assigned an animal. Each picture of an animal consists of three or four general statements that are supposed to describe your personality.

 

For fun, I read mine (the monkey) and found it hardly describes me. However, the generalizations in "Rabbit" fit me pretty well. My friend and I joked about it.

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I have zero "belief" in horoscopes. They are --and should be considered-- an afront to every Christian.

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I used to read horoscopes when I was younger but not in a fanatical way. There were days when I'd read something that can relate to my situation at the time but most of the times, I can't identify with what it is describing. They were mostly nonsense that you'd read because they happen to be in every newspaper. If you happen to read several newspapers in one day, they would have different readings for each zodiac sign which is a clear proof that there really is no systematic basis for the so called fortune reading. I'm reading newspaper less often these days so I haven't read horoscopes for a long time. I'll definitely not use the internet to search for horoscope reading.

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In my urgent dissertation I wrote that it was nonsense. But in real life I do believe it. Some say it's all imagination but I believe in stars and what they say

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I highly recommend that you believe in what the Bible has to say. Everything you need to know is right there. :RpS_smile:

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In my urgent dissertation I wrote that it was nonsense. But in real life I do believe it. Some say it's all imagination but I believe in stars and what they say

 

Hi VanillaCandle, first off, I see you are new around here, so WELCOME TO CF! :RpS_smile:

 

That said, here's an interesting article about astrology, the Bible and Christians that may be helpful.

Question: "What does the Bible say about astrology or the zodiac? Is astrology something a Christian should study?"

 

Answer:
The Bible has much to say about the stars. Most basic to our understanding of the stars is that God created them. They show His power and majesty. The heavens are God’s “handiwork” (
;
). He has all the stars numbered and named (
).

 

The Bible also teaches that God arranged the stars into recognizable groups that we call constellations. The Bible mentions three of these: Orion, the Bear (Ursa Major), and “the crooked serpent” (most likely Draco) in
;
;
; and
. The same passages also reference the star group Pleiades (the Seven Stars). God is the One Who “fastens the bands” of these constellations; He is the One who brings them forth, “each in its season.” In
, God also points to the “Mazzaroth,” usually translated “constellations.” This is thought by many to be a reference to the twelve constellations of the zodiac.

 

The constellations have been tracked and studied for millennia. The Egyptians and Greeks knew of the zodiac and used it to measure the beginning of spring centuries before Christ. Much has been written of the meaning of the zodiacal constellations, including theories that they comprise an ancient display of God’s redemptive plan. For example, the constellation Leo can be seen as a celestial depiction of the Lion of the Tribe of Judah (
), and Virgo could be a reminder of the virgin who bore Christ. However, the Bible does not indicate any “hidden meaning” for these or other constellations.

 

The Bible says that stars, along with the sun and moon, were given for “signs” and “seasons” (
); that is, they were meant to mark time for us. They are also “signs” in the sense of navigational “indicators,” and all through history men have used the stars to chart their courses around the globe.

 

God used the stars as an illustration of His promise to give Abraham an innumerable seed (
). Thus, every time Abraham looked up at the night sky, he had a reminder of God’s faithfulness and goodness. The final judgment of the earth will be accompanied by astronomical events relating to the stars (
;
;
).

 

Astrology is the “interpretation” of an assumed influence the stars (and planets) exert on human destiny. This is a false belief.
The royal astrologers of the Babylonian court were put to shame by God’s prophet Daniel (
) and were powerless to interpret the king’s dream (
). God specifies astrologers as among those who will be burned as stubble in God’s judgment (
). Astrology as a form of divination is expressly forbidden in Scripture (
). God forbade the children of Israel to worship or serve the “host of heaven” (
). Several times in their history, however, Israel fell into that very sin (
is one example). Their worship of the stars brought God’s judgment each time.

 

The stars should awaken wonder at God’s power, wisdom, and infinitude. We should use the stars to keep track of time and place and to remind us of God’s faithful, covenant-keeping nature. All the while, we acknowledge the Creator of the heavens. Our wisdom comes from God, not the stars (
). The Word of God, the Bible, is our guide through life (
).
~https://www.gotquestions.org/astrology-Bible.html

 

Yours and His,

David

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Horoscopes are just predictions that are very likely to be true, especially when they're read by tons of people. You also have the power of suggestion that just makes you notice something in your day that you probably wouldn't without someone saying it would happen or you'll do something subconisienly because it was suggested that you would.

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Horoscopes are just predictions that are very likely to be true, especially when they're read by tons of people. You also have the power of suggestion that just makes you notice something in your day that you probably wouldn't without someone saying it would happen or you'll do something subconisienly because it was suggested that you would.

 

What cracks me up is that people believe in free will, thinking orbital motions and resulting gravitational forces of celestial bodies has a direct influence on them. Like the moon causing the ebb and flow of the ocean so they think these celestial bodies can influence them which are smaller bodies of water. So much for the free will or autonomous nature so many proclaim. The creation (universe) becomes a soverign king.

 

God bless,

William

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What cracks me up is that people believe in free will, thinking orbital motions and resulting gravitational forces of celestial bodies has a direct influence on them. Like the moon causing the ebb and flow of the ocean so they think these celestial bodies can influence them which are smaller bodies of water. So much for the free will or autonomous nature so many proclaim. The creation (universe) becomes a soverign king.

 

God bless,

William

 

I very much believe we have "free will", but I am not about to read or put my trust in any horoscope. The times I did read them (not because I believed them, but because I have friends and family who do, to some extant, and I wanted to know what they were) I couldn't imagine putting my trust in such things.

 

The Bible forbids "divination" in any case, and so we should not become involved in such things. I believe there can be a spiritual component to it as well, just as with more obvious "divination" such as going to a "fortune teller", "medium" or palm reader.

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The worship of nature, was the starting point for making the stars a guideline for lifestyle.

The Son of God made visible and invisible components in the universe.

In ancient times people were able to understand the invisible forces, by observing their impact and control over the visible.

They even knew the role of the Godhead in creating and maintaining these things. See Romans 1:20.

 

As Bible students we ought to be aware that the visible things - the things we can perceive by testing etc, are not made of things that appear to us, but of invisible forces.

See Hebrews 11:3.

 

The invisible things of nature, not only cause matter to exist, but are the background context for all activities.

 

For instance a tornado isn't just an accidental brush with the wind, but it is generated by the 'supernatural' forces, or the invisible forces of nature.

And of course the invisible things are ultimately governed and caused to exist by the creative word of God, which came from the mouth of God in the beginning of (any) creation.

When people destroy and interfere with the cycles of nature, and or make it impossible for God to bless them, sometimes nature loses its calm.

 

The invisible forces of nature determine for instance the weather, and things like the temperature/activity of every molecule. The forces are distributed according to the patterns or objects in the universe, and it was well understood that the movement of the planets, or the position of the earth in relation to the sun/constellations, were an indication of what the invisible forces were doing - whether ascending or declining etc.

This knowledge allowed them to have advanced forms of agriculture, warfare and engineering, etc. And also knowledge about the behavior of animals.

So you can see how this was later applied to human behavior, and when the objects of nature were worshiped, people allowed themselves to be guided by the predictions of those who pretended that humans had no choice in the matter, that humans were directly affected by these things.

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