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Buried or Cremated

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I'm not really sure where to put this so I'm posting this here. I don't know if anyone here has been ever really considered their death and what would happen to your body after you die but I have and I've been talking to my mom about it. We both kind of like the idea of getting cremated and dumped either in the ocean or in a flower field. I'm not actually sure if that is biblically okay, though I know that is some cultures cremation was reserved for criminals. I personally just don't like the idea of spending a lot of money on a dead body and burying it in a nice lacquered box. I just want to be returned to ashes post haste and have a cherry tree planted in my memory and be done with it. Is there a proper Biblical way to deal with the dead or is cremation allowed?

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I realize there are a number of factors to consider on this point. However, traditionally, burial has pointed to the bodily resurrection. As such, it has been the norm in church history. For an interesting point/counterpoint, you might enjoy this article from CRI: Is Cremation Christian?

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The Bible does present burial as the normal way of disposing of a dead body but it never commands it. I have arranged to have my body cremated because that is cheaper than having it buried. Burial is supposedly a way of expressing faith in the resurrection but God is able to resurrect a cremated body just as well as a buried one.

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The normal practice was not burial in the ground but entombment (that is for those who could afford it). Abraham buys the cave of Machpelah so that he may bury Sarah (Gen. 23). Thus the beginning of a family tomb. There are early Canaanite tombs which date before the time of Abraham.

 

The oldest cemetery in Israel is the Silwan necropolis dating between the 8th and 7th centuries B.C

 

http://holylandphotos.org/browse.asp?s=1,2,6,19,91

 

However there is an interesting event in I Sam. 31:8–13.

 

The next day, when the Philistines came to strip the slain, they found Saul and his three sons fallen on Mount Gilboa. So they cut off his head and stripped off his armor and sent messengers throughout the land of the Philistines, to carry the good news to the house of their idols and to the people. They put his armor in the temple of Ashtaroth, and they fastened his body to the wall of Beth-shan. But when the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead heard what the Philistines had done to Saul, all the valiant men arose and went all night and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Beth-shan, and they came to Jabesh and burned them there. And they took their bones and buried them under the tamarisk tree in Jabesh and fasted seven days.

 

When David found out he sent word to men of Jabesh-gilead (II Sam. 2:4-5).

 

David sent messengers to the men of Jabesh-gilead and said to them, “May you be blessed by the Lord, because you showed this loyalty to Saul your lord and buried him.
There does not appear to be an animosity concerning the method used to bury Saul.

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I realize there are a number of factors to consider on this point. However, traditionally, burial has pointed to the bodily resurrection. As such, it has been the norm in church history. For an interesting point/counterpoint, you might enjoy this article from CRI: Is Cremation Christian?

 

Thank you for posting the link. The article was a little more clear than what I've pulled up. Nice to know that we aren't required to be buried even though that was tradition. I guess I'm not worried about God resurrection since with a word he created the world, I'm sure pulling some ash bits together would be nothing.

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I've never thought about that, I somehow feel like you're making me predict my death. However, I can tell that I would consider the idea of getting buried, just as usual, I do not really find being cremated as something that God would like, by the way, I do not really know if God agrees with this anywhere in the scripture, but that's just what I think. Everybody has right to choose how they want their last days to be set up and well, this is kind of a sad thing to think about, but we're going to think about it someday.

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Thank you for posting the link. The article was a little more clear than what I've pulled up. Nice to know that we aren't required to be buried even though that was tradition. I guess I'm not worried about God resurrection since with a word he created the world, I'm sure pulling some ash bits together would be nothing.

 

I am glad that resource was helpful. I've found it useful in the past. And, agree, our God spoke and this massive, marvelous universe came to be, so he can certainly resurrect us just fine and dandy. Personally, I plan to get buried, but I am an organ donor. My reasoning is that while I want to honor the reality of bodily resurrection, any organs I can leave behind to help someone else is going to be replaced anyway. ;)

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I would much prefer burial. This way you'll still stay on Earth. People could come to my grave knowing that the Julian they know is still there. My body may not be as alive as it once was, but the collection of bones that once made up me will leave a reminder of my existence. Not that I will be forgotten, but to make people realise that their memories of me weren't dreams.

 

This probably sounds very weird.

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I would much prefer burial. This way you'll still stay on Earth. People could come to my grave knowing that the Julian they know is still there. My body may not be as alive as it once was, but the collection of bones that once made up me will leave a reminder of my existence. Not that I will be forgotten, but to make people realise that their memories of me weren't dreams.

 

This probably sounds very weird.

 

This is a good point I would've liked to point out when I commented. The fact of being buried allows you to somehow, religiously speaking, leave your body on the earth as your soul goes up to the sky, it's such a beautiful and interesting thing because I personally think of it as a chance to leave everything behind and start a new life along with God, unlike when you get cremated, your body goes away as the wind blows and you just disappear, at least that's how I see it, that's my point of view. By the way, thank you for your opinion, it's really good.

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The bible doesn't say much about cremation but maybe these verses do prove cremation is wrong?

Amos 2: 1-2: This is what the LORD says: “For three sins of Moab, even for four, I will not relent. Because he burned to ashes the bones of Edom’s king . . .[/quote But it does appear that when dead couldn't be buried in the sepulchers because of war the dead were cremated. That said, I think it should be up to your family to decide what they'll do with your body once you pass away.

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This is not a topic I had considered to check with biblical resources, so thank you for bringing it up. Apparently there are pods out there that are like giant seed starters you can be buried in. As you decay, you provide nutrients to it and a tree grows where you are buried. I rather like that idea - from dust to dust, and leaving both something those left behind can visit and giving of my body one final time back to the earth.

 

As far as cremation goes, I believe during the rapture "those who have gone on before" will be taken up first, and I doubt that a God that can bring all his people home, or create the universe, will have any problem gathering up the ashes that are scattered about.

 

I know death can be a hard topic for people to think about, but it does not bother me as much as some I suppose. To me it is something that is pretty inevitable for most of us (unless rapture happens first); why fret or fear that which we cannot change?

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This is not a topic I had considered to check with biblical resources, so thank you for bringing it up. Apparently there are pods out there that are like giant seed starters you can be buried in. As you decay, you provide nutrients to it and a tree grows where you are buried. I rather like that idea - from dust to dust, and leaving both something those left behind can visit and giving of my body one final time back to the earth.

 

As far as cremation goes, I believe during the rapture "those who have gone on before" will be taken up first, and I doubt that a God that can bring all his people home, or create the universe, will have any problem gathering up the ashes that are scattered about.

 

I know death can be a hard topic for people to think about, but it does not bother me as much as some I suppose. To me it is something that is pretty inevitable for most of us (unless rapture happens first); why fret or fear that which we cannot change?

 

Oh, I've seen those, I kind of like that idea too. I saw another way were you're ashes are mixed with cement and placed at the bottom of the sea as a starter for a coral reef. I kind of like that idea to, since I love the ocean. But a part of me doesn't want to put more unnatural things in the ocean. Ashes would still be organic enough that something could probably filter it and eat it or I'll just lay on the bottom of the ocean.

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If we are Christians and follow what Christ did then we should consider burying the dead. Remember that Jesus was buried and he never opposed it. I think that by burying the dead it talks more about our generation to future generations. Cremation also be another choice of burying the dead. We should also remember that the dead has nothing to do with the living and they can't affect them in any way.

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If we are Christians and follow what Christ did then we should consider burying the dead. Remember that Jesus was buried and he never opposed it. I think that by burying the dead it talks more about our generation to future generations. Cremation also be another choice of burying the dead. We should also remember that the dead has nothing to do with the living and they can't affect them in any way.

 

I think you bring up an outstanding point, Francis. One is an example, and if I may add, communication. What does Burial communicate? What does Cremation communicate?

 

To me, Burial communicates honor and great care with handling our remains, and long term remembrance. Cremation is dishonorable, inexpensive, and quick.

 

But to emphasize I do not find anything really to suggest one over the other from Scripture. I am content accepting that this is my own preference. But Francis brings up a point of example. For those of you that contend immersion by baptism most accurately represents Jesus' death and resurrection, I'm just curious about your position on how you perceive Burial vs Cremation for the second resurrection?

 

God bless,

William

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For those of you that contend immersion by baptism most accurately represents Jesus' death and resurrection, I'm just curious about your position on how you perceive Burial vs Cremation for the second resurrection?

I believe that baptism by immersion represents the death and resurrection of Jesus and I also think that burial better represents a belief in the resurrection of the body but I don't think either of these is essential. I have arranged to have my body cremated after I die because this is cheaper than having it buried.

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I have arranged to have my body cremated after I die because this is cheaper than having it buried.
I also.

 

 

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Personally, I'd like a Viking funeral. To be placed in a sailboat and sail into the sunset with the boat burning. I have left this world and body behind and crossed a great ocean to another world to be with my King.

 

As a practical matter, I leave behind an empty can: Recycle whatever parts you can and dispose of the rest. I will not be needing it any more. I have a GLORIFIED body waiting for me (one that can see in color!)

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My personal thought is that it does not really matter what happens to the earthly body after we die. The fact is that we return to the earth, no matter what becomes of our body, it just arrives there in a different form, depending on what becomes of the body after we die. There are people who have died in fires, people who drown, are blown up in explosions, and mostly none of those are buried properly, and burial is symbolic in those cases.

Another thing that might play into the reason that people were entombed in Biblical times, besides the factor of respect that William has mentioned, is the fact that most people in those times were not embalmed like they are now, and sometimes they could not tell of the person was actually dead or just in a coma. My mother still worried about that, because she had heard stories of people who were buried alive.

Often, the left the body for several days to see for sure if the person was actually dead, and if decomposition was starting to occur, then they buried the person. This is the reason that Jesus waited for several days before he summoned Lazarus out of the grave; so no one could say that Lazarus was not really and truly dead when Jesus called him forth.

What is important is that we have been saved and belong to Jesus before we die, and not what happens to the body after we are dead.

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Someone here basically said, if we were brought up from dust, we can be raised from ashes. To each their own. How bout the verse where it says the worms ate into his brain? Oops, rock song. Acts 12:23 it was upon further review. The Bible has a way of being very strait to the point. Kinda this is what you have to look forward to if you are not saved. I would like to hear some of your comments on that Acts verse, because it could imply he was alive when being eaten by worms, which may lend credence to sleep theology. I'm using the KJV for friendly argument purposes.

Acts 12:23 KJV

And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

 

Ha, either way it's gross. And another question if I may; how many believe that the angel of the LORD could be JESUS? Or should that be it's own topic?

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Personally, I'd like a Viking funeral. To be placed in a sailboat and sail into the sunset with the boat burning. I have left this world and body behind and crossed a great ocean to another world to be with my King.

 

As a practical matter, I leave behind an empty can: Recycle whatever parts you can and dispose of the rest. I will not be needing it any more. I have a GLORIFIED body waiting for me (one that can see in color!)

 

A Viking funeral is totally cool, brother. Did you leave the can behind for your friends to play a game of "kick the can" after you leave? Maybe you should leave a bucket. :rolleyes:

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When the time comes that I'd be joining the company of the Lord, I would like to have my remains buried than cremated because we believe that when the time comes that God descends from the heaven to awaken his children, I would like to be taken by him and enter his promised kingdom.

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Looking at a dead person is creepy, so I think creamation is the way to go. Plus, it's better to have a funeral where the only images of the dead person are happy pictures, rather than some really odd impression you get from an open casket. Funerals are sad enough, so why make them more sad with open caskets?

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After our bodies die they will turn to ash in any way you want or expect.

So, either you are cremated or buried you will eventually become just dust and ash, the is no doubt about it.

A human body is only a vehicle used by immortal soul, so it bears no difference how we dispose of a dead body.

I don't think that from this standpoint it is forbidden to be cremated, I didn't find any reason why not.

It is only a fashion is to bury a body so that sadden relatives can visit our grave in memory.

 

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Being Baptist we were taught that to cremated y he body was forbidden, but I have never known if that was true from a biblical perspective. I struggle with it more these days after facing a certain death recently and God's miracle to heal me. We were taught that the body is to remain whole for the resurrection.

 

This probably sounds silly but I have always feared fire, lost my home to a fire, was lucky to survive. I always feared what if I am not dead, but cationic with no readable pulse, and wake up burning.

 

That and is there really any biblical foundation.

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