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  1. theogrit

    Intro

    Welcome, islandrazor, and I hope you'll be blessed among us.
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    Hi everyone from Down Under...

    Yes, welcome LoveGodsWord. Glad to see you here, and thanks for the encouragement.
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    Hi

    Welcome jsimms. Glad to see you here.
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    Same-Sex Attraction is Sinful

    I'll bite, though not necessarily or at least immediately to the specifics of the original post, apart from noting the site linked from there is one generally administered by laymen of the RPCNA (Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America), a somewhat sister conservative denomination to the PCA (Presbyterian Church of America, where my membership lies) and the OPC (Orthodox Presbyterian Church), and the intent of the linked article is to demonstrate that conservative fealty against homosexuality. Also, I should probably apologise for not intently reading every post in the thread but doing more of a skim. I chose to bite on this necro-thread mostly to perhaps appropriately open a can of worms (necro > worms) due to being recently 'shot down' on another conservative blog site (I'll not yet mention by name) about a somewhat ancillary postulation. The thread there was over leaders in conservative Reformed/Presbyterian circles running into a new trend in 'sexual dynamics', that of soul-gender. With some background, the PCA (as I'm sure certain other Christian conservatives) have been challenged for about a decade now over traditional roles of women in the Church. Recent social and cultural dynamics at large favouring GTLB agendas have certainly exacerbated these issues. Anyway, what some conservatives are now facing is a growing trend to try and shore up the traditional Biblical teachings on manhood and womanhood with speculative reinforcement, with a claim that not just the human body, but the human soul has gender. This new teaching is neither confirmed in historic Christian orthodoxy nor made plain in the Holy Scriptures - it is speculative, even if so logically deduced by some. My stance is that there is no need to shore-up the clear teachings of Scripture, and that in fact any doctrinal insistence.on speculative deduction is quite dangerous, not that it doesn't make for interesting discussion. The Scriptures don't even specify details of our individual soul origin, much less indications of gender. Of course, we'd all agree God created Adam's soul, breathing into him the breath of God, and as such making man "in His image". But orthodox Christian tradition is divided on how each of us has subsequently come into being. The 2 main legitimate speculations from Scripture are that of creationism (that God continues with His act of Creation (beyond that of the initial 6-Days of Creation) in making each new soul and putting that in a human host body vs traducianism, that each new human both naturally and supernaturally comes into being as a product of parental reproduction. Again, it's interesting to discuss but the Scriptures DO NOT clarify a position. What perhaps makes it even more interesting it that the questions, "Who am I?", "Where do I come from?" seem so important to our human condition - something most everyone desires to know. God apparently is not as keen as we in settling these questions for us, apart from firmly asserting His role as our Supreme Creator. What some conservatives seem to be hoping is that an insistence that we each enter this world with a soul gender will reinforce as an aberration the claims of some in the LGBT community to be one gender trapped in another gender's body. Conservatives using a tactic of soul gender would seem to be forcing the soul origin issue into the creationism camp > that is, that God would not mismatch the genders of soul and body, and so any claims of a mismatch from GLTB are erroneous and enforce that their desires are evil.
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    Hi, I'm new

    Thanks, justme, I've likely been too lenient on Presbyterians as well. The largest body, the Presbyterian Church (USA) has either abandoned or severely watered-down many of its formative doctrines and tenets in favour of more progressive or liberal theologies. I'm sure there's now a wealth of Arminianism there. I think at the same time mainline Baptists have particularly benefited from an upswing in Calvinism within their ranks. A 4-point Calvinism has been especially persuasive there.
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    Hi, I'm new

    I'm sure since it's his welcome thread, reformed baptist will be along presently to clear up whatever mess I've made. And fwiw, I didn't define Calvinist or Arminian, and we tend to beat each other up these days as much if not more than Catholics and Protestants.
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    Hi, I'm new

    Apart from the fact that for a few hundred years we each used to kill each other in the name of God we tend to get along a bit better these days. We each generally are Christian and conservative on a lot of similar issues. As to differences the big one is mostly (and by by "Catholic" we generally mean the Roman Catholic Church, the one with the Pope in the Vatican (there actually are a whole range of Catholics)) that Presbyterians and Baptists are distinguished from Catholics as Protestants. Protestants generally split (or were kicked out) from the Roman Catholic Church back several hundred years ago over abuses within the Church. There were lots of wars and lots of folk died but again very generally the Roman Catholic Church recognised a lot the abuses brought up by the Protestants and cleaned house themselves over many of the issues. Today Protestants and Catholics still disagree over many theological issues, perhaps most central are issues regarding the spiritual salvation of folk (esp. how people are saved) and the personal authority or responsibility of each believer as compared with the Church (or the/a Pope). It maybe helps (since I'm a Presbyterian) to mention the hallmarks of the Protestant Reformation summed up in 5 solas (singular marks of distinction): Sola Scriptura (“Scripture alone”): The Bible alone is our highest authority. (that is, not the Church - the Catholic Church would claim the "keys of the Kingdom are held by the Church and the Pope, as Saint Peter's heir). Sola Fide (“faith alone”): We are saved through faith alone in Jesus Christ (that is not by works - the Catholic Church would claim with works).. Sola Gratia (“grace alone”): We are saved by the grace of God alone (that is, not by any actions by people or the Church). Solus Christus (“Christ alone”): Jesus Christ alone is our Lord, Savior, and King (that is of each Christian individually and as a group, not together with the Church - or in other words, all Church authority in the life of a believer is solely subservient to Christ). Soli Deo Gloria (“to the glory of God alone”): We live for the glory of God alone. (that is, only God merits our highest praise - He alone is worthy to receive glory and honour and praise (in the ultimate sense). Now, Baptists and Presbyterians (who have also historically killed one another), have generally agreed on most Protestant issues, and many still to this day agree on particular Reformed issues (like Calvinism as opposed to Arminianism), though most Baptists have become Arminian over time. [our Reformed Baptist member is a Calvinist, for example]. However, Baptists and Presbyterians generally differ on the nature and meaning of baptism. I know, it all gets sort of 'complicated'. But again. very generally, Baptists tend to focus on the baptism of adult believers, and also generally by immersion. Presbyterians however, while agreeing with a baptism of believing adults also extend baptism to the children of believing adults, as a "sign of the covenant". If it's not too confusing, Presbyterians generally see the covenant of baptism as mirroring the sign of circumcision from the Old Testament, and so acceptable for children. Baptists reserve baptism for adults making their own decision of faith some point after an age of personal accountability.
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    What is the Significance of The 8 Days of Easter?

    So you're thinking there's no point to dunking doughnut holes.
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    What is the Significance of The 8 Days of Easter?

    Thanks, thread-starting News Feeder. I do appreciate when the religious things we do are ripe with understanding. I'm likely unique here in being one who doesn't follow a Church calendar with religious intent, apart from Sunday. I'm sure, however, that most would agree that Easter (or Holy Week), perhaps more reverently termed Pascha (Pasch) or Resurrection Sunday, is somewhat an amalgam of the Biblical Feast days of Passover (or Pesach), which is 7-8 days, and a subsequent 'fulfilment' or 'completion' in the Catholic Holy Week leading up to Resurrection Sunday. Many Christian of course reflect upon the pattern established in Judaism, whose actual events and redemptive symbols we find mirrored and fulfilled through Christ. I've always appreciated when these two traditions can at least meet-up on the Gregorian Calendar most of us use today, rather than following the tradition somewhat resolved at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, translating into Christian celebration of Easter as the first Sunday after the first full Moon after the Vernal Equinox, thus forming Holy Week as the week prior. In some Reformed (Protestant) tradition, which providentially is the one I'm in, both the Jewish holidays and the Catholic holidays are discarded, for want of a better term, as completed solely through the redemptive work of Christ and celebrated in concert with Jesus' resurrection on Sunday.
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    Hi, I'm new

    God's peace be with you and your dad.
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    Hi, I'm new

    PCA, but my heart is OPC. I sat under Gordon Clark, who had a bit of a journey through both.
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    Hi, I'm new

    Have you gone by the moniker Contra Mundum elsewhere? I'll just put it out there that I've made the rounds to many an Internet Christian watering hole.
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    Hi, I'm new

    Howdy, rb, fellow Calvinist Café buddy. It's providential I just popped in and saw you here. Welcomes to us both. I think I likely know justme as well.
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