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  1. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    Do not address me ever again sir. You are a very offensive false accuser with no Spirit of Christ. Cease and desist in the Name of Christ Jesus! No more grace. You have been reported for your personal attacks on me. I forgive you, but there is no place for that kind of behavior in the Body of Christ. Leave me alone.
  2. Watcher

    Prayers requested

    68 years old in a wheelchair... you have social workers to help and run interference for you. I am disabled also, not in a wheelchair... but still it is tough to move around. But I had to once request the services of an independent living councilor, a free service from your local social office. That person stepped in and took care of all the issues I had going at the time. Mine was concerning being jacked around by the people I bought this place from. But they mostly solve your kind of problem... Social Security people go a long way to make sure relatives aren't taking advantage of their elders. It seems wrong for you to move out. You should enlist the help of one of these folks to make your ransom demands... So that you are not being held for ransom by them as you are. Make your demands known, let them know your frustrations and they will help you. Peace my friend.
  3. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    (Mar 12:25) For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as angels in heaven. (Luk 20:36) Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Hi Sue. I would be interested to see your scriptures that say Angels were created as a separate realm than we are please? The very Word angel means "messenger". We are the messengers of the New Covenant Gospel. Strong's G32 ἄγγελος aggelos ang'-el-os From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; an “angel”; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger. Here is an example of "angels" / messengers (same Greek Word) who are plainly men... (Luk 7:24) And when the messengers (Greek angelos) of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind? (Men) (Luk 9:52) And sent messengers (Greek angelos) before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. (Men) Now, here are scriptures which uses the word "angels" instead of "messengers"... (Mat 24:31) And he shall send his angels (Greek angelos) with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Who are these angel/messengers sent to gather the Nations into Christ? Here is that answer; (Act 1:8) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Which is just another way of saying Mt 24:31. The Bible message is always the same message, regardless how it is specifically worded. We can see the obvious parallels here. Here is when that began; Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. What was this mission of the Christians in their MESSAGE to the world as "messengers" that started in Acts 2? (Act 2:38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Act 2:39) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. This happens to each man in his own order when he is saved by accepting the Gospel and RECEIVING Christ; (1Co 15:23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Ultimately resulting in; (Eph 1:10) That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: And it is how we preach the Gospel unto the ends of the earth; (Rev 14:6) And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, What is our "angelic" message? (Rev 14:7) Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. We speak this message even in the peril it brings upon our lives, attacked by the unbelievers; (Mat 10:16) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Yes, if we "angels" / "messengers" fall away, as you wrote above, then we die, there is no redemption for us. This does NOT refer to those of us who have gone on before referred to as "innumerable angels/church of the firstborn/spirits of just made made perfect here; (Heb 12:22) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, (Heb 12:23) To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven... Yes, we read of the fleshy carnal beast being cast into the lake of fire, false prophets... aka "the devil". Yes this is true. These are people who reject salvation in Christ. It is not part of a superfantastic other worldly realm of evil creatures. It is about us being saved by the foolishness of preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He who believes lives, he who rejects it, dies. I am a messenger of the Gospel. An"angelos". So are you. So are all Christians. If we fall away, then yes, we are an angel cast down from Heaven. Oh the simplicity that is in Christ! I hope this helps Sue. And I hope you feel better and get over your bug soon :)
  4. Watcher

    Prayers requested

    It is easy for me to promptly dismiss a family member who attempts to take advantage of me. It is like math... abuse me, good bye. I have a big family and so it has happened... I forgive them, but don't trust them under my roof, except for visits. My credit card is totally out of bounds for them. They can go get one of their own. They can go take care of themselves. It can only be healthy to cut the umbilical cord and send them on their merry disrespectful ways, without even looking back. The illusions of "guilt" one might experience after that are simply that, illusions, and they will fade as you find peace in removing a big problem from under your roof. Peace
  5. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    (Pro 3:5) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
  6. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    I am not being arrogant. Forgive me if you thought I was. But don't accuse me of bad intent here or I will put you on ignore or "report you to the staff". But I won't. I'm not like that. Let us speak intelligently and maturely and in the Word of God or not at all. Ok? I am not interested in debate or your personal opinions against me. You haven't seen me act like that or speak like that to you, so please don't you dare speak to me like this. That is not Christ like conduct. I am giving you truth. Accept it or not. Just don't get nasty and carnal with me. That is not becoming to a brother in Christ.
  7. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    There is no place in the Bible where this concept is found, "a central being in the spiritual world/fallen angel". I know where every reference is made to satan/serpent/devil/dragon etc, and in each case "who" is specifically being referred to, and never is this enemy of ours ever referred to as a fallen angel. There is no such thing in the Bible. As I stated earlier, the entire concept of this supernatural demon world was introduced LONG AFTER God gave the Law to Moses. That is why you NEVER see anything in the Law of Moses of God warning us against this alledged super spook. If this "fallen angel" creature was real, God would have mentioned Him at least once, and how to deal with "him". INSTEAD... he tells them to repent for THEIR WICKED EVIL SINS. And then He slew the flesh of a lamb to show them HOW to become sinless... which is by the DEATH of the FLESH. It was a perversion of the Jews, who adopted paganism along with their ideas of devils and immortal demon souls. No man can in any good faith can open the Bible and prove "a central being in the spiritual world". That doesn't come from the Bible. It isn't in there. I find a lot of folks just really love the idea of a super spook in red flannels and horns and a pitchfork, going around poking people into sinning. The "one" who has tempted and provoked me into sinning has ALWAYS been the SELF in me of my "lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and pride of life". And this person is ME. Not some "one" else. And the evil in a person OTHER than me, such as in my unrepentant neighbor, can ALSO be satan to me, if I begun to allow them to convince me to sin. This is normal Life. Our carnal old man is the enemy. We all know this from scriptures. That enemy is described poetically, in great Words so that we can identify personally with this ultimate enemy against God of our carnal selves. Now at this point, I am hoping that you pick up where I am leaving off here, by getting a concordance, and doing some Word study and continue looking in to this. The Truth will set us free. This is a good "doctrine" to know about. Our mind works much better within the Word of God once we have identified who the "evil one" that must die ACTUALLY IS... and Isn't. May God be Glorified in this, Peace
  8. I do like the Christmas Carols. Some of the best of the Gospel message is found in their refrains. They should be sung year 'round! Joy to the World, the Lord HAS COME! Let earth receive Her King! Come into my earth Jesus! And He has Come! (2Co 4:7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. (Col 1:27) ... Christ in you, the hope of glory:
  9. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    I just covered this. I took this time to help your understanding. Not as an ulterior motive to justify a personal belief. ... sigh. Good day sir. (Rom 3:4) ...let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. PS. I was raised in a good old fashioned damnation hell fire devil demons and eternal torture church probably just like you. But I saw the importance of this; (1Th 5:21) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Now I am trying to help you out of your superstition. THAT is my motive. I will welcome your reply if you accept that of me.
  10. Mary was just the "sign, a virgin shall conceive..." Isa 7:14 This only makes Mary the Mother of Jesus in the flesh, to fulfill Jesus being born of David and Abraham, even the record of His geneology back to Judah, Abraham, clear back to Adam. His FLESH birth from Mary was as reflected here... Luk_3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.... Rom 1;3 shows this "Flesh" descendency through Mary... (Rom 1:3) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; Mary was "Blessed" to play this important role of course, but nothing compared to THIS... (Rom 1:4) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: Now Mary isn't mentioned here in either case, because the important person in verse 3, is DAVID. And in verse 4, we see that Jesus is the "Son of God" by Resurrection from the Dead. Mary certainly has nothing to do with Jesus as being the "Son of God" according to scriptures, but it is His Resurrection from the Dead which takes all our attention from WHERE He was Born. In fact, Jesus was so intent on getting people's attention away from His fleshly mother to His TRUE Mother, that He said this; (Mar 3:33) And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? (Mar 3:34) And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! (Mar 3:35) For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother. So with a little Bible study, we see that Jesus' TRUE Mother are those who do the Will of God. Jesus was showing that His Mother Mary was not to be recognized as anything special; (Joh 2:3) And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. (Joh 2:4) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. And again, further removing the "flesh" mother connection away from Himself, in John 19:26 He finally completely transfers all "mother/son" relationship with Mary, onto His half brother John. Then in the epistles, we begin to recognize this "Mother" as the same exact "Mother" that was prophecied to Come, who we find described as this; (Gal 4:26) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. (Rev 12:1) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: (Rev 12:2) And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. This is a continuation of the Abrahamic Covenant unfolding... the part that Sarah played out, Abraham's wife, demonstrating the Israel Wife of God bringing forth that SON someday far in the future from then, as represented by her being barren for so long, and then having that Son in her old age. (Israel nearly 4000 years barren, until Christ) by which then the Mother would be saved in the child bearing (1 Tim 2;15, Gen 3;15) When a person relies on a man's teaching or church history for enlightenment, guidance and worship; there will be chaos confusion and death. Who knows what imaginations can then creep into the mix, until ending up with an entirely foreign "gospel" that is no Gospel. That is what catholicism is. So I recommend throwing out all men's publications, pamphlets, books, sermons, commentaries and idols ... And opening one's Bible to let God Speak. His voice is clear and perfect, able to divide the marrow from the bone. You will then SEE what God is saying. And you will be dismayed at first because you will know it is not what you've been listening to and repeating to others.... But if you keep reading, you will become full of knowledge wisdom and understanding , coming into Spiritual Revelations, leaving behind all the catholic carnal ideas. He will then visit upon and into you His Holy Spirit if you pray for Him to Come. You will then be given to know and understand all things and you will be full of Joy and Peace in Christ as you haven't even begun to imagine. Peace and Love in Christ
  11. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    Of course. It's all part and parcel consistent through scriptures. Anytime someone is referred to by the Lord as "satan" or "the devil" or a "serpent" or a "viper" or a "dragon" etc...there is a REASON behind it of course, aka the allegory. It is always a man to whom he is referring with these terms. Just like he refers to the righteous as "stars" or "trees" or "a Garden" or a "Saint" or "Mt Zion" or "Heavenly Jerusalem"... No difference. It's how God always speaks. Whoever the "serpent" natured person was in Genesis, they were quite definetley one of the "beasts of the field" people who was also created on the sixth day. Gen 1;24, 3;1. The one that tempted Eve was more subtle than any other "beast of the field" (men = beasts ecc 3;18 Titus 1;12 etc). This subtle person was pure carnal minded, and he took what he heard of the Word of God spoke from Adam, twisted it around, and caught Eve alone with his sneaky wiles, to challenge her FAITH. We all know people like that. It is what carnal minds do. So the "tempter" became known as "the serpent". Here are other people whom the Lord referred to as "satan" (the word simply means adversary, and is not a title or a proper noun.) Matt 16:23 Jesus calls Peter satan, because Peter was standing as an "adversary" against Christ's crucifixion. Look up the word "satan" in the concordance. It only means "adversary". Jesus referred to common unregenerate men as a devil, or of the devil quite often, those men who were full of hatred and evil, Jesus said they were even born of this "devil"... John 6:70 Jesus referred to Judas as the devil. Also as the Son of Perdition. The most ignoble title to a man in the Bible. More...Mat_3:7, Mat_12:34, Mat_23:33 These passages our Lord let's us know "who" the"serpents" and "vipers" are... the unbelieving Jews always attempting to TEMPT Jesus. Never is the Enemy some "one" other than a person whom we allow to tempt us. Like Eve did. According to scriptures, the "enemy" is our "nature" causing us to do evil as well as tempting others to do evil. Jesus Christ destroyed the devil (the tempting flesh of Himself) when He layed down his own life. The ONLY way the tempting devil can be totally finally killed is when our flesh body dies. Like when Jesus destroyed the devil when His flesh body was killed... (Heb 2:14) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; That is what scriptures like this celebrate... (Gen 3:15) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Rom 16:20) And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly... How? By "dying"... (1Co 15:36) Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: (Joh 12:24) Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. (Joh 12:25) He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. This is how the enemy is destroyed by Christ. Death to His flesh. This is how the enemy is destroyed by Christ in us, Death to our flesh. The enemy is anyone motivated by carnal thoughts. Such as that "serpent" guy in the Garden of Eden. That motivation involves, (Gen 3:6) "the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life" (fleshly carnal "beast/serpent" things of our personalities.) Gal_5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 2Pe_2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 1Jn_2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. However, Jesus overcame this "wicked one" when He was tempted by the "devil" in His own personal... "lust of the flesh"...(Mat 4:3 tempted to miraculously feed his hungry FLESH) "lust of the eyes"... (Mat 4:8 Tempted to immediately rule over all He SAW) "pride of life".... (Matt 4:6 Tempted by his own flesh to be "PROUD" and lifted up and worshipped because he had power over gravity and all would believe and move to enthrone Him then and there... and avoid the cross... Yet Jesus overcame this "devil" by denying his carnal lusts, and He Overcame the "wiles of the devil". So yes. Using general age old terms like "serpent/satan/devil/dragon etc"...the Lord is showing us the universal affect of sin within men's evil hearts, how it affects them in guilty sinful misery... It is important to recognize that the "evil one" to whom the Lord is referring to in scriptures is first ourSELVES. That is why we must die. Only THEN is "satan bruised under our feet". Just as Jesus bruised satan under his feet, He does the same in us when we die to ourselves in the waters of baptism, fight the good fight against the evil, letting Jesus Win the war in us, then the End. Then our Kingdom is delivered up to our Father and we are All in All! Sure clears up a lot of confusion eh :) Blessings in Christ Jesus our Lord
  12. Watcher

    Did God create evil?

    This was an allegory, "proverb" of a man, the King of Babylon. Whom God set as King over His Israelite "stars of heaven". Who then abused them and exalted himself, so God disposed of him. (Isa 14:4) That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! (Isa 14:16) They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
  13. Watcher

    Basic rules for cats

    I particularly liked this...
  14. Watcher

    Our Closest Enemy

    Greetings and also may Jesus Bless you
  15. Watcher

    What is a Non Denominational Christian?

    Peace be with you. And I'll be... it does look like that. The picture got cropped, he's standing on pavement watching over a snowbank hah
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