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  1. Fireproof

    Questions From a Pseudo-Forced Christian

    Can I ask why the corners of the field are problematic? The reason I ask, is lets say I am poor and God has made such provision in his law that I could walk by peoples field and receive something to eat without question or condemnation (but mercy) because God made this provision to be obeyed (extending to me this mercy). I guess I would look at it as glad its the corners since I might be too proud to beg (not wanting to go on anothers land or have to beg another for the mercy to receive from them. Thy corners being as they were (and the poor being able to take from there) being the mercy of God for them. To me, it would seem to keep thanks to God (for remembering them) versus approaching man (to ask of him) and the thanks (due God) possibly being directed more to them then to God. I guess I would think of it that way. I am surprised you didnt bring in Amalek, but its sort of the same Amalek was not merciful to the weak so He would be at war with him forever and he would wipe him out, which also seems to mirror the merciful obtaining mercy (even there).
  2. Fireproof

    How can the trinity be one God?

    I dont read ism links, but I also dont think of Jesus Christ as a believer but our Lord so I dont know how that applies, after the manner of timing of ascending and Thomas not being there when the others were and Christ having received the Spirit to breathe upon them, I would think that was not of men but of God. Christ was not alone, John 8:29 He who sent me with me God was in Christ 2 Corinthians 5: 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. He asked them if they believed this John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
  3. Fireproof

    How can the trinity be one God?

    You know, I would probably go with "the Son of man" in that comparison (as he acknowledges himself to be) in Mark 9:9 and Luke 18:31 (for example) but who is declared "the Son of God" (as you agree) by the resurrection from the dead (as is shown us in Romans 1:4). Since he refers to himself as the Son of man and the Son of God. As he had said, it must go as it was written concerning the Son of man (who is Jesus Christ our Lord) made of the seed of David (and in the flesh suffered, died, was buried) and was raised up again. and declared the Son of God. So I think we agree here. Although calling him master and Lord and acknowledging Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God is shown to us in the scriptures before that time maybe not the "Lord Jesus" but they were calling Jesus Lord before the LORD said anything to our Lord Jesus at his ascension is how I would reason with that. I believe Jesus is "the Son of" God. and that when he ascended he ascended to his God and our God as is shown in John 20:17 and when he did so that even God the Father acknowledges the Son by calling him God as is also shown in Psalm 45:6-7 which is again comfirmed in Heb 1:8 where he was also made Lord and a priest forever. I do believe that for us there is one God, the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 8:6 The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are all acknowledged as God in scripture
  4. Fireproof

    Church of Beyonce?

    They are truly "of the world" then eh?
  5. Fireproof

    How can the trinity be one God?

    The LORD (Jehovah) made Jesus (the Son of God) both Lord and Christ it shows Psalm 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD (Jehovah) said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. (Mark 12:36-37) Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
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    Roseanne Barr and her comment that got her show fired

    I was just trying to jump on Youtube to watch something and I got this message 500 Internal Server Error Sorry, something went wrong. A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation Is this suppose to indicate intelligent black people here? Or evolved human beings (regardless of color)? Sometimes you just have to ask
  7. Fireproof

    How can the trinity be one God?

    In John 20:28 Is Thomas acknowledging Christ as Lord and God or Christ as his Lord (My Lord) and the Father (who was also in Christ) as his God? When saying / or acknowledging both there? John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Only given Jesus also said, John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Even as it also says, 2Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. And again (keeping with "the words") John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. But also here, the oneness between them it says, John 10:30 I and my Father are one. But Jesus also says, John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. So he prayed his disciples would have the same oneness they had between them (which pertained to His Father being in him) Doesnt change anything but rather acknowledges all of the above just understood differently, even the order of things before and after Thomas declaration in John 20:28 where it appears to show more of what is there between Psalm 45:6, John 20:17, Psalm 45: 7 as acknowledged in Hebrews 1:8 (and where this was at the right hand of the Father) having recieved the promise (the gift of God) to breath upon them, and after that manner could be acknowledged by Thomas there in John 20:28 Just reasoning these and a few others from the scriptures
  8. Fireproof

    Roseanne Barr and her comment that got her show fired

    I heard of the song, "Hey hey were the monkeys" (from some years back) which was sung by a bunch of white guys but I never heard of the term porch monkeys (and I live in the South) although I didnt always live in the South. Did Roseanne grow up in the South? She specifically called a black woman a porch monkey? I saw the woman but I would have never have never thought for a second she was a black woman or that monkey comments were racist, never heard of it. I'm getting out more though (unfortunately). I always thought when someone called another person an ape (whether they were white or black, male or female) that they were referring to a persons (inner) primitive characteristics. Poking fun of someone that way. Or spoofing on another using the liberal scientists notion that we (as the human race) evolved from apes (having nothing to do with people of color in the tribal sense) but humanity as a whole) though in part having more to do with going backwards (spoofing on not having evolved, or still primal). I do suppose it depends on how someone uses it. I dont see how monkeys or apes being used to poke fun must always apply to racism against blacks whenever pictures of apes are used for sport. Not always appropriate (granted) but they have been used to poke fun of white people too, for example, president George bush Jr as well as Donald Trump (and that wouldnt be considered racist). Which it shouldn't be (for either) since much earlier we have liberal scientists pushing the human race itself evolved from such a species (regardless of ones color). Would seem unfair then target white folks for tossing around a monkey in the form of a meme as being racist while others can freely toss around the same at whites and be considered innocent. That just seems unfair.
  9. Heres another comparison I'll add in where we can see a figure of Christ in Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; (The wood/ the Cross) In Abraham a figure Gen 22:2 Who offered up his only begotten son (His only begotten) Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Abraham accounting that God was able to raise him up , even **from the dead** (faith in the operation of God) And **from whence** also he received him **in a figure** (the law having shadow) **Him**God raised up the third day, (Christ Jesus) and **shewed him openly** (the resurrection from the dead) Or this way, Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but **where is the lamb** for a burnt offering? The law having **shadow of** good things to come, and not the very image ofthe things Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. The law prophesied until John, the messenger sent before him to bear him witness John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! And there it is, God has provided himself a lamb A picture of His only begotten Son upon whom was placed the wood Paul writes, Rom 8:2 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? God having preached before the gospel unto Abraham, as the promise was to Abraham and his seed And what was shown in a figure beforehand (by the ministry of the prophets) God did show openly (in His Son Jesus Christ) Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. From there into to those who belong to Christ (having the promise Spirit) Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. And as then, even so it is now Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
  10. Thank you Hidden Manna for pointing out these as well, I love these sorts of comparisons, they are even fun to find. God bless you
  11. Thanks for adding to the thread Origen, yes in respects to those things shown in Abraham regarding the covenants the word is found there, thanks for pointing that out for us God bless you
  12. Here is just a small snippet of one that I love which shows how God has spoken by the prophets The law prophesied, wherein even through Abraham (who was a prophet) used similititudes by him (and in whom we find an allegory) Just showing how one can validate the use of comparing spiritual things with spiritual in Abraham's things. Notice also that desiring to be under the law and not "hearing" borrows an allegory found in Abraham where the same is used. Abraham having two sons (by two women which represent the two covenants). God using women as the representives of the two. God having preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham while Hagar and Sarah represented the covenants. Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Howso? Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets. Of Abraham it says Gen 20:7 Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet And so in Abraham (a prophet) by which God had spoken multiplying visions and using similitudes, is the same affirmed by Paul in the two sons of the two women that belong to Abraham Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. Concerning which Paul goes on to expound on "the hearing of" the law more correctly as by the two Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? And then immediately enters into the things of Abraham in the law Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. I like following out Paul into these various things just because the words of God are awesome. Which are the same things Paul would speak of between them over and over again, "which things" So again, Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. Which things are what ? Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory for these are the two covenants Which I believe are the same things by which they would compare between 1Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. And knowing by the same God had spoken using similitudes by them. Just as there was a priest (of the most high) that met Abram (even before his name was changed to Abraham) who brought out to him bread and wine (which could also be understood to symbolize the body and blood of Christ beforehand even as that priest (as Hebrews points out) was made like unto the Son of God (Heb 7:3) just as the earthly shadows can serve unto the heavenly examples As the writer of Hebrews has said, Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, And one not made after the carnal commandment but after an indestructable life Whereas Jesus Christ being made a priest "forever" after the order of the very one that met Abram and who served him what could later be understood represents his body (as it even pertains to the NC) even as "the scripture foresees" Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. The law having a shadow of the good things to come not the very image of things I'll add some as we go along when I have time to return to it, feel free to add so that we might be edified God bless you
  13. I am really interested in this topic and would love a thread where we can all share some of these, to prove them out and do so without arguing but just using scripture and showing something the best we can, using our proofs from scripture. Anyone have some cool ones? God bless you
  14. Fireproof

    Forum gliche?

    Hi William, I was speaking to Hidden Manna, he mentioned that he cannot post on the forum all the sudden. He thought maybe it was a gliche since he could post and then all of the sudden for no apparent reason he couldnt post any longer but is locked out for whatever reason. I told him that I would bring this to the boards attention since he cannot do that for himself. Maybe you could help him. Thanks, God bless
  15. Fireproof

    Prayers for justme

    Wow, so sorry to hear this JustMe, I will be praying for you too, God richly bless you in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, peace to you
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