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  1. LastDaze

    Israel’s Salvation

    But They did not fail to acknowledge Him the first time. Thats like saying Israel Failed to enter the promised land after the 40 years in the wilderness since only a remnant of them did so. Who believes that? Nobody. We all know that the believing remnant that entered the promised land indeed constituted "ALL ISRAEL" at that time, and the rest were entirely cut off from ANY inheritance.. The EXACT same thing happened in the apostolic last days generation during their 40 years between Pentecost and AD70, which the 40 years in the wilderness with Moses pre figured & foreshadowed. Premills, on the other hand, sure have a bizarre idea of who is Israel (they count the disobedient sons of Abraham as Israel while discounting entirely the faithful sons of Abraham). St. Paul said that when the nation was in mass apostasy, the TRUE Israel was carried on not through the lineages of the wicked sons but rather through the OBEDIENT FEW (called the "remnant"), such as was true in Isaiah's day (Romans 9:27-29) and Elijah's day (Romans 11:3-5). Peter says the same thing at Acts 3:22-24, where it is clear that the wicked jews who refuse Christ were to be "cut off from among the People of Israel" while the faithful jews (John the Baptist, Joseph and Mary, the Twelve, the Seventy, the three thousand on Pentecost day, and many other jews) were the True Faithful Israel. Just as the jewish church abode with Moses in the wilderness (Acts 7:37-38), so Jesus had HIS jewish church (Mt. 16:18-19). And within a few years after Pentecost, the faithful Israel learned how to start accepting both jewish and also gentile followers from all over the empire to convert into their Nation (1 Peter 2:9-10; Mt 21:40-45). And so the tiny remnant True Israel grew into a worldwide Judaism living under the promised NEW covenant of Israel's Messiah. And so it was also in Moses' day, when the countless thousands of wicked sons of Abraham were slain in the wilderness while the faithful sons of Abraham survived and got to enter the Promised Land. We must NEVER count the continuation of Israel through the wicked sons but rather always through the faithful remnant! Saying today's modern, multi ethnic, secular, National, Democratic Israel is the continuation of TRUE Covenanted Israel is akin to claiming that the Wicked thousands slain in the wilderness were TRUE Israel while the Remnant that entered the Promised land were NOT True Israel. Preposterous! Premill have this totally backwards. again they count the disobedient sons of Abraham as TRUE Israel while discounting entirely the faithful sons of Abraham claiming they are something else, and NOT True Israel! Exactly polar opposite to what Scripture plainly teaches. The Remnant of the elect Jews followed God by following Jesus and his jewish apostles. They are True Faithful Israel. Their jewish brothers who disobeyed and fought against them were cut off from among the people, as stated in Acts 3:22-24. The Lord of the Vineyard Came upon them and was the Rock that crushed them (1 Pet 2:7-8/Mt 21:43-45), for they rejected the time of God's visitation (Luke 19:40-44). And, this is the same pattern that took place in Isaiah's day and in Elijah's day -- i.e., the REMNANT of the jews is true Israel and the rest are destroyed and do not have any heritage (Rom 9:27/Rom 11:2-5). Perhaps as many as 2 million died at AD 70, and only thousands were taken captive and made the slaves of the Roman emperors, never again to see each other. Only the Nazarenes survived, and they survived precisely because they prepared a NEW covenant form of Judaism that detached from Temple, tribes, the priestly class of Aaron, and the animal sacrifices. It was precisely this NEW covenant form of Judaism that literally saved them and preserved them intact as a people. We know that the Nazarenes went on to transform the whole world. They alone are "ALL ISRAEL" that was saved. Modern Jewish sources are the first to admit that the "Jews" of today have no blood relation to the ancient people of Israel. The "jews" today are a people that follow a post-AD 70 Talmud religion. So they are neither descendants of the ancient Israelites nor the followers of the religion Moses mandated. The tribal lineage was wiped out entirely at AD 70. There is not one person on our planet today who can prove they have any bloodline to any tribe of the pre-Temple era. Finally, in real historic terms, that means that the Nazarene Jewish sect (Acts 24:5) was the only one that survived AD 70. All the other sects---Sadducees, Essenes, Pharisees, Zealots--were destroyed and went extinct at AD 70. This is historic reality, as Jewish and secular histories admit. And it is quite remarkable that what saved the Nazarenes was their NEW covenant teaching that taught them to prepare to detach from animal sacrifices, the Temple, physical circumcision, and the priestly class of Aaron. The jews who did this survived AD 70 while the ones who clung to a salvation via the Old Covenant were all wiped out. Amazing history.
  2. In my post #15 on page one of this thread, which I guess you missed, as well as my post # 22 on this page above which, ironically, you are just now quoting, I cited the Chapter and verse. How you could not "find it anywhere" when I have laid it out, chapter and verse, in front of you more than once, is a mystery. Do you even read my posts? Sorry but with comments like this, I have to wonder.... Here it is again just in case, hopefully the "third time's a charm" and you'll actually read the verse below this time, and respond accordingly: Ezekiel 44:9 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "No foreigner uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh of all the foreigners who are among the sons of Israel, shall enter My sanctuary. Please explain Why Christ Jesus, in whom Paul says Circumcision avails nothing, will require men to be physically circumcised before they may approach Him in the Millennial Temple? Is it a "Memorial Circumcision" required by Christ of men in order to "avial themselves" of the opportunity to enter into His presence, instituted by Christ to remind people that Circumcision avails nothing?
  3. And you need to explain away the reqirement that all who enter that temple must be physically circumcised, as Ezekiel Insists here: Ezekiel 44:9 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "No foreigner uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh of all the foreigners who are among the sons of Israel, shall enter My sanctuary. ...and it must be explained in Light of Paul's teaching here: Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. 1Corinthians 7:19 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. Galatians 6:15 Why is it that in Christ Jesus the "circumcision that avails nothing" is restored by Christ Jesus as a REQUIREMENT to even approach Christ Jesus in the temple?
  4. LastDaze

    Matthew 24, FULFILLED!

    They are one in the same, as my OP demonstrates. THAT generation did in fact SEE "all those things take place" James Confirms this in James 5:8-9: 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is near. 9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned.Behold, the Judge is standing at the door! James is Quoting Jesus in Matt 24 when Jesus said: "So likewise YOU too [the apostles], when YOU [apostles] shall see all these things know that it is near, even at the door" James KNEW that ONLY after the signs were seen would Jesus be "Near and at the Door" Not before the signs were seen. James was not wrong. Of course it has, as again my OP demonstrates: Matt 24:29-31 -- Christ speaks of the end signs. This passage is using the apocalyptic language of the great prophets Isaiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, David etc in exactly the same way they used it for God's judgments against nations and individuals in their own times. Compare with God's coming to O.T. Babylon in 539BC (Isa 13:10-13, 13:1, and 13:17), OR God's coming to Edom in 703BC (Isa 34:3-5), OR God's coming to Egypt in 572BC (Ez 32:7-11) OR God's coming to Nineveh in 612BC (Nahum 1). Jesus Christ is now also seen as coming in that same glory of the Father (cf. Matt 16:27; John 17:5). Jesus came to 1st century Israel and demolished it in the same glory of the Father's cloud-comings in the O.T. Age (Isaiah 19:1-2). This passage speaks of Christ's full equality and oneness with Jehovah. The Parousia of Christ is signified by the fall of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple. Many cosmic signs were also witnessed in that period. The angels and glorious light of Christ are witnessed at the temple and around the cities of Jerusalem (Jude 14; Rev 1:7 -- See also Josephus; Wars 6:5:3; 2:22:1-2; 4:4:5; 6:5:2-3 -- also Tacitus and Midrash). The unfaithful jews were gathered from all over the world at Passover Feast in 66AD and they sealed in by the Roman armies. They were now in the furnace of the City and were destroyed (see: Matt 13:40-43, Luke 19:43-44, Matt 23:33-38, Luke 23:28-31). Rabbis call 70AD the "end of biblical judaism." The Church is also gathered and spared God's desolations and wrath. The Church is at this time after the death of the apostles built, established, never to be destroyed. The Church becomes the eternal Temple and Priesthood of God (2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:19-22; 1 Peter 2:9). Christianity emerges distinct from Judaism and becomes the universal and one true faith of God. Christ's followers destined to occupy all nations, teaching them to obey Jesus. The teachings of Christ and the apostles are fully and historically vindicated in this historic destruction of Jerusalem.
  5. Good, I'm glad you are aligning your views with those of the Prophets and Apostles, that in the New Heaven and Earth period there will be: Birth, Ageing, Death, sinners, Vocations, the need for Shelter from the elements, procreation, the need for Nutrition, etc.
  6. You are fooling yourself about Ezekiel 40-44's sacrifices. They are propitiatory, not memorial: Ezekiel 40:39 In the porch of the gate were two tables on each side, on which to slaughter the burnt offering, the sin offering and the guilt offering. Ezekiel 42:13 the priests who are near to the LORD shall eat the most holy things. There they shall lay the most holy things, the grain offering, the sin offering and the guilt offering; Ezekiel 43:20 'You shall take some of its blood and put it on its four horns and on the four corners of the ledge and on the border round about; thus you shall cleanse it and make atonement for it. Ezekiel 43:21 'You shall also take the bull for the sin offering Ezekiel 43:22 'On the second day you shall offer a male goat without blemish for a sin offering Ezekiel 43:27 'When they have completed the days, it shall be that on the eighth day and onward, the priests shall offer your burnt offerings on the altar, and your peace offerings; AND I WILL ACCEPT YOU Ezekiel 44:10 "But the Levites who went far from Me when Israel went astray, who went astray from Me after their idols, shall bear the punishment for their iniquity. Yet they shall be ministers in My sanctuary, having oversight at the gates of the house and ministering in the house; they shall slaughter the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people Ezekiel 44:23 "Moreover, they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and the profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. Ezekiel 43:7 Son of man, this [stone temple] is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet, where I will dwell among the sons of Israel forever. All these offerings are the propitiatory offerings of the Mosaic Law that Jesus came to FULFILL, once for all time, forever. The teaching of a reinstitution of this blood sacrificial system is a rebuke against the blood of Jesus Christ, and a cause for anathema according to the apostles. A return to this system is a falling away from salvation, according to the apostles. A falling from the grace of Jesus Christ Setting aside the sacrifice, How do you explain the requirement for physical circumcision in the supposed millennium? Ezekiel 44:9 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "No foreigner uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh of all the foreigners who are among the sons of Israel, shall enter My sanctuary. What would Paul say to you about that? Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. 1Corinthians 7:19 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. Galatians 6:15 I reject the "Backwards Redemption - Replacement Theology" of Renewed Animal Sacrifice and Physical Circumcision, as should and would ANY Christian following the Inspired teaching of the Apostles on the matter.
  7. You seem to be teaching the opposite of Isaiah here. "The Child shall die at 100 years old, but the sinner being 100 years old shall be acursed." 2 people in the passage, the child and the sinner. Child, not rebelling against God, Shall die at 100 years old... the Sinner NOT DYING at 100 years old, but accursed. Isaiah, writing under divine inspiration teaches infallibly that During the New H&E period, there will still be sinners. John, in the NT confirms this fact: Revelation 22:14-17 Random Internet Guy Theophilus says Isaiah and John are wrong to teach this. When Choosing which party to believe, God's Inspired Prophet and Apostle or some Random 21st century internet guy, my money is on Isaiah & John, every time.
  8. LastDaze

    Matthew 24, FULFILLED!

    The following is a COMMENTARY ON MATTHEW 24 deomnstrating it's then contemporary fulfillment in the apostles generation. We need look no further than the apostles own generation for the fulfillment of every aspect of the Olivet Discourse. Matt 24:1-3 -- The Temple, God's dwelling place among mankind for 1500 years, is going to be destroyed. The Age of the Law of Moses will soon end. In 70 AD the Roman armies literally took apart the once-holy Temple stone by stone to get at the gold that had melted down between the cracks from the heat of the fires, and to remove the Jewish headquarters. Temple vessels taken to Rome by Titus (Josephus, Wars, 7:5:5-7). The Jews had at first set fire to the Holy Temple (Josephus, Wars, 6:2:9; 6:3:5; 6:4:5; 6:6:2). 24:4 -- Apostles ask, WHEN WILL THESE THINGS BE? What sign signifies thy coming at end of the Mosaic age? (for this must be discerned by signs) 24:4-5 -- False messianic movements. Dositheus the Samaritan, Simon Magus deified in Rome, Theudas (Acts 5:36-37), Manahem and, under the government of Felix, "deceivers rose up daily in Judea, and persuaded the people to follow them into the wilderness, assuring them that they should there behold conspicuous signs and wonders performed by the ALMIGHTY" (Josephus). Felix, from time to time, apprehended many and put them to death. About this period (A.D. 55) arose another Felix, the celebrated Egyptian impostor, who collected thirty-thousand followers, and persuaded them to accompany him to the Mount of Olives, telling, them that from thence they should see the walls of Jerusalem fall down at his command as a prelude to the capture of the Roman garrison, and to their obtaining the sovereignty of the city. Partial list: Judas, son of Hezekiah (4 BCE); Simon of Peraea (4 BCE); Athronges, the shepherd (4 BCE); Judas, the Galilean (6 CE); The Samaritan prophet (36 CE); King Herod Agrippa (44 CE); Theudas (? CE); The Egyptian prophet (52-58 CE); Menahem, the son of Judas the Galilean (66 CE); John of Gischala (67-70 CE); Vespasian (67 CE); Simon bar Giora (69-70 CE) Matt 24:6-7 -- Claudius' Roman war with Britain/East Anglia, at least three Jewish insurrections against Rome prior to the 60s AD -- one was violently put down by Cuspius Fadus. The Jewish/Alexandrian revolt upon Caligula's death, Claudius' martial law declared in Palestine after the jewish insurrection at the death of Agrippa I. The Germanic tribes in present-day Belgium and Germany made perpetual trouble for the legions throughout the reign. A smouldering Balkan war was in continuous progress. All this, of course only escalated, and Rome in 68-70 began its own Civil Wars that nearly toppled the empire. As Tacitus wrote, " Four princes [Galba, Otho, Vitellius, Domitian] killed by the sword; three civil wars, several foreign wars; and mostly raging at the same time. Favorable events in the East [the subjection of the Jews], unfortunate ones in the West. Illyria disturbed, Gaul uneasy; Britain conquered and soon relinquished; the nations of Sarmatia and Suevia rising against us; the Parthians excited by the deception of a pseudo-Nero." Acts 11:28 records the worldwide famine. Josephus reports the famine in Jerusalem in the 60s AD which killed hundreds of thousands during the Jewish War (AD 66-70). Accounts of infanticide and cannibalism as foretold in Deuteronomy 28:53,57 -- women cooked and ate their babies (Josephus; Wars 6:3:3-4; Wars 5:1:4). Read more on wars of this time and false prophets -- (Josephus: Antiq. 20:5:1-4; 20:8:5-10; Wars 2:10:1; 2:13:4-7; 6:5:2) 24:9-10 -- persecution of the early church by the Jews and later by Nero as he blames the Christian sect for the burning of Rome. This went on the entire AD 30-66 by the Jews, and Nero's persecution was 3.5 years from 64-68AD. Matthew 24:9-13 is exactly parallel to Matthew 10:16-23 which all scholars assign to a 1st century fulfillment. Also the Jewish Civil War occurred in 66-69AD (Josephus; Wars, 2:17:1-10; 2:18:1-11; 4:6:2-3; 5:1:2-5; 5:6:1; 5:13:6; 6:2:1) 24:11 -- more false prophets. these are mentioned by Josephus as being related to the messianic movment of the seditious Zealots that promised the redemption at the Temple for the rebels, yet the Romans brought total destruction. Believers trapped in the city of Jerusalem endure to the end and are spared. 24:14 -- Gospel to the "oikoumene" -- Roman Empire. Fulfilled rapidly in the apostles' generation -- Col 1:23, Col 1:5-6, Romans 10:14-18, Romans 16:26, 1 Tim 3:16. Early Church Fathers all viewed this passage as fulfilled (See Clement of Rome, Chrysostom, Eusebius) -- gospel went even to Spain and Gaul. The immediate rapid spread of the Christian faith throughout the entire empire was a sign. The "whole world" spoken of in the Bible pertained to the extent of the Roman Empire, and the Bible is consistent on this (compare the "whole world" of Matt 24:14 with the "whole world" of Luke 2:1, Acts 11:28, Acts 2:5, Romans 1:8 and and 2 Chronicles 36:23). The scriptures even used a special greek word in Matt 24:14, OIKOUMENE (strong's #3625), which means the Roman Empire -- the "whole world" (OIKOUMENE) in the scriptures was contextually centered in the area of the Ancient Roman Empire (Luke 2:1). The "whole world" in the scriptures is mapped out by a careful reading of these passages. 24:15-20 -- This famous historic account is recorded in Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History , iii.v. -- the Judean remnant saw armies of Cestius Gallus in 66AD (and Vespasian's later) surrounding Jerusalem (compare to Luke 21:20-24). At the same time, The Temple was captured by the Jewish Zealots (2 Thess 2:4-7) that turned the temple into a camp, defiled it with blood, and made evil of their own high priest. During this time the daily sacrifices to Rome were ended, which was a Declaration of War against the Empire. These events signalled the faithful remnant to flee according to our Lord's commands to them. Just after they escaped the city, the Zealots seized the Temple and the city, guarded the gates, and prevented all escape. Eusebius records, "But the members of the Church in Jerusalem, having been commanded before the war in accordance with a certain oracle given by revelation to the men of repute there, to depart from Jerusalem, and to inhabit a certain city of Peraea called Pella, all the believers in Christ in Jerusalem went thither, and when now the saints had abandoned both the royal metropolis itself and the whole land of Judaea, the vengeance of God finally overtook the lawless persecutors of Christ and His apostles." At the end the Romans sacrificed to their standards at the Temple (Josephus, Wars, 4:5:1; 5:1:2,3,5). Matt. 24: 21-24 -- The Great Tribulation (also Luke 21:20-24). Read Josephus, Wars of the Jews -- entire. The Roman Jewish war is the documented history of the great tribulation. Josephus declares the war with the Romans was "the greatest of all ever heard of" (as Christ said in Matthew 24:21). "Whereas the war which the Jews made with the Romans hath been the greatest of all those, not only that have been in our times, but, in a manner, of those that were ever heard of" -- Josephus -- Preface to Wars of the Jews, Section 1 (see also: Wars, 5:10:5). Jesus calls this time the "Days of Vengeance" (Luke 21:20-22; Isaiah 61:2; Matt 23:31-38; Luke 19:40-44; Matt 21:40-22:7), and "wrath and distress to come upon this people" (Luke 21:23 -- see also Josephus, Wars, 2:10:1; 2:22;1; 6:3:3-4; 6:9:2-4; 7:1:1). Lakes of blood and fires (Josephus, Wars, 2:18: 4:5:1; 5:1:2-5; :6:4:6; 6:5:1,2; 6:8:5). Jerusalem divided into three (Rev 16:19 -- see also Wars, 5:1:1,4). Genealogical records destroyed (Josephus, Wars, 6:6:3; 6:9:1). God took the Kingdom away from them (Matt 21:40-45; see also Josephus, Wars, 6:8:4:; 6:9:1,4). Jerusalem called "That Great City" and "Sodom" (Rev 11:8; Rev 18:21-24; -- see also Josephus, Wars, 5:10:5; 5:13:6; 7:8:7). Jews sold into slavery (Luke 21:24 -- see also Josephus, Wars, preface section 11; Wars 6:8:2; 6:9:2-4). City of Jerusalem is leveled (Matt 24:2 and Luke 19:40-44 -- see also Josephus, Wars, 7:1:1; 7:8:7). Jesus warns his generation: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of gehenna? Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. Behold, your house is being left to you desolate (Matt 23:33-38). Matt 24:25 -- Jesus here tells the apostles that these dire events will be experienced by them (also Matt 24:33-34). They will be the generation to see these things that Jesus is describing (and not some distant future generation). Compare Matt 24:25 with similar statments in John 14:28, John 13:19 and John 16:4that all signal events in the apostles' own near future. Christ always told his apostles things they would need to know beforehand, that it would be to their benefit when the things came to pass before their eyes. Matt 24:26-28 -- don't fall for the false messianic claims. The true desolation is like lightning over the whole land and, where the carcasses are strewn, there too will be the Roman Eagles (i.e, the infamous Eagle Ensigns of the Roman armies that were planted all over Jerusalem during the Roman Jewish war). The Eagle Ensigns served as a symbol of the Jews' defeat at the hand of their enemies. Most commentators believe this war and passage also was the fulfillment of Moses' predictions in Deuteronomy 28:49 and following verses. All this literally came to pass in 66-70AD. See also: (Josephus, Wars, 4:5:1; 5:1:2,3,5) Matt 24:29-31 -- Christ speaks of the end signs. This passage is using the apocalyptic language of the great prophets Isaiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, David etc in exactly the same way they used it for God's judgments against nations and individuals in their own times. Compare with God's coming to O.T. Babylon in 539BC (Isa 13:10-13, 13:1, and 13:17), OR God's coming to Edom in 703BC (Isa 34:3-5), OR God's coming to Egypt in 572BC (Ez 32:7-11) OR God's coming to Nineveh in 612BC (Nahum 1). Jesus Christ is now also seen as coming in that same glory of the Father (cf. Matt 16:27; John 17:5). Jesus came to 1st century Israel and demolished it in the same glory of the Father's cloud-comings in the O.T. Age (Isaiah 19:1-2). This passage speaks of Christ's full equality and oneness with Jehovah. The Parousia of Christ is signified by the fall of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple. Many cosmic signs were also witnessed in that period. The angels and glorious light of Christ are witnessed at the temple and around the cities of Jerusalem (Jude 14; Rev 1:7 -- See also Josephus; Wars 6:5:3; 2:22:1-2; 4:4:5; 6:5:2-3 -- also Tacitus and Midrash). The unfaithful jews were gathered from all over the world at Passover Feast in 66AD and they sealed in by the Roman armies. They were now in the furnace of the City and were destroyed (see: Matt 13:40-43, Luke 19:43-44, Matt 23:33-38, Luke 23:28-31). Rabbis call 70AD the "end of biblical judaism." The Church is also gathered and spared God's desolations and wrath. The Church is at this time after the death of the apostles built, established, never to be destroyed. The Church becomes the eternal Temple and Priesthood of God (2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:19-22; 1 Peter 2:9). Christianity emerges distinct from Judaism and becomes the universal and one true faith of God. Christ's followers destined to occupy all nations, teaching them to obey Jesus. The teachings of Christ and the apostles are fully and historically vindicated in this historic destruction of Jerusalem. Matt 24:32-33 -- parable of all the trees (Luke 21:29-31). When trees shoot forth leaves it signals that summer is now near at hand. "So likewise YOU too [the apostles], when YOU shall see all these things know that it is near, even at the door" (see also James 5:8-9; Rev 3:20). In Luke's account Jesus promises the apostles: "So also you, when you see these things come to pass know that the kingdom of God is near at hand" (Lk 21:31). MATT 24:34 -- VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED
  9. Define uncommon... 1 of every three unsaved people will die before the 1000 years is up? 1 in 10? 1 in 100? Ok, so you believe that the commonality of death today is as superior teacher about salvation than the Blood of Bulls and goats, but once Death is less common (how much less common you havent said) then the blood of Bulls and goats will be required to teach the living sinners who never die, about death and salvation... Do I have that right? Now...Where does the Bible Teach that Isaiah 65 referrs to the Millennium? All I see is an assumpton on your part that it does, but no direct scriptural teaching. In My Bible, Isaiah states that He is referring to the New Heavens and Earth Period in Chapter 65, not the "Millennium": 17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. 18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing, And her people a joy. 19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem, And joy in My people; The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her, Nor the voice of crying. 20 “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; For the child shall die one hundred years old, But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed. 21 They shall build houses and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit. Was Isaiah Mistaken? Do you know something Isaiah didn't?
  10. LastDaze

    Amillennial Interpretation of Ezekiel 40-48

    Thanks. The first two’s last posts were over a year and a half old so I’d hardly be chiming in to any sort of conversation... the third had a fairly recent reply form an active user so I did respond... But help me understand why we can’t discuss it here in this thread? I guess I’m asking, how is my question off topic exactly? Do you have a perspective you can share here?
  11. So why aren’t they needed for those born today who need to be taught the truth? What do we have today that you believe is superior to what the millennium will offer?
  12. LastDaze

    The Catholic church is not Babylon

    I don't believe so As I said in my Post, Pastorally yes, Prophetically no. The Story of Noah and the Flood has Pastoral application to all peoples of all times, but had prophetic significance to Noah's generation Alone, otherwise, you and I WOULD be building arks, as would have all peoples of all generations if it had ongoing PROPHETIC significance. As with the Flood, Revelation has PASTORAL significance to all peoples of all times, but had prophetic significance to one generation alone. Right. And I hope you would agree that the Cross is the terminus, and that Christ's cross work was not simply a type or shadow of some future, greater sacrifice for sin, and future, greater application of Psalm 22. The Apostles applied an "OT Type>Messianic Fulfillment" Hermeneutic. OT Types found their terminus in Messianic fulfimment. There is no scripture that teaches that the Messianic fulfillments are in turn a mere "type" of some future, greater sacrifice and redemptive plan that keeps happening over and over and over in a greater and greater way...
  13. LastDaze

    The Catholic church is not Babylon

    Should we then expect another Virgin Birth? another Crucifixion? Was Calvary a mere type of some future greater sacrifice for sin? Are you Building an Ark for the next flood? Who gets to decide which scriptures get fulfiled again and again and again and again and which do not? You? Me? Billy Graham? The Pope? Agreed. Pastorally yes, prophetically, no. Well I doubt it. For Scripture teaches that the earth and material cosmos will exist forever (Ecc 1:4; Ps 78:69; 89:36-37; 104:5; 148:4-6; Eph 3:21) and that human generations are perpetual (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33)
  14. LastDaze

    Amillennial Interpretation of Ezekiel 40-48

    So, what do you make of the Blood animal sacrifices for atonement and acceptance painstakingly spelled out in the chapters? Not literal? Or the requirement that all men who enter it be phsyically circumcized? Symbolic?
  15. LastDaze

    The Catholic church is not Babylon

    It Says the Great City. How Many "The Great City's" are there in Revelation? Are they all great? are any Greater than another? Or is every Reference to "The Great City" John makes in Revelation referring to The ONE Great city? When Choosing who the morons are... the writer of the text or the Interpreters making assumptions 1900 years later.... my money is NOT on the writer.
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