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The Creatures in Revelation

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I think often when we study scripture we look much too hard. Revelation is no doubt a complex book with lots of symbolism but we are given one of the central themes of the book. I’ve seen many people connect Revelation with all kinds of strange things. An example is that many people connect Babylon with the Roman Catholic church. It is just early (ancient) Babylon.

 

If you look at the creatures in the early Babylonian and Assyrian religion you will see these creatures. For example. Starting in Revelation 9:7 we see that the description of the scorpion men

Scorpion man - Wikipedia

This description matches a creature in the early Assyrian religion. Also looking at the end of 9 we creatures that describe the

Lamassu - Wikipedia

 

It’s also interesting in Isaiah 14 Lucifer is recognized as an Assyrian.

 

This same thing with Daniel. Daniel was raised Chaldean and these are often the type of creatures he was describing.

 

Does anybody have a similar perspective?

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I believe the different creatures follow the symbols as referenced in the Bible as described below:

 

Bible Symbols Chart

 

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17 hours ago, CDF47 said:

I believe the different creatures follow the symbols as referenced in the Bible as described below:

 

Bible Symbols Chart

 

So you are say there isn't a literal aspect to Revelation. It is all symbolic.

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4 hours ago, tugz said:

So you are say there isn't a literal aspect to Revelation. It is all symbolic.

I mean there are a number of symbols used in the book Revelation.  Same is true for the Book of Daniel and throughout the Bible.  The symbols mainly relate to the prophesies foretold.  

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On 6/22/2018 at 6:06 AM, tugz said:

I think often when we study scripture we look much too hard. Revelation is no doubt a complex book with lots of symbolism but we are given one of the central themes of the book. I’ve seen many people connect Revelation with all kinds of strange things. An example is that many people connect Babylon with the Roman Catholic church. It is just early (ancient) Babylon.

 

If you look at the creatures in the early Babylonian and Assyrian religion you will see these creatures. For example. Starting in Revelation 9:7 we see that the description of the scorpion men

Scorpion man - Wikipedia

This description matches a creature in the early Assyrian religion. Also looking at the end of 9 we creatures that describe the

Lamassu - Wikipedia

 

It’s also interesting in Isaiah 14 Lucifer is recognized as an Assyrian.

 

This same thing with Daniel. Daniel was raised Chaldean and these are often the type of creatures he was describing.

 

Does anybody have a similar perspective?

Verses (11-12) below clearly teaches the creatures described are devils in the kingdom of satan, released from hell.

 

The torment for five months will be that of scorpion stings.

 

I don't believe detail is needed, as this will not affect "Sealed Believers" as verse (4) clearly explains.

 

I believe all the plagues such as this will be called at the mouths of the "Two Witnesses" as seen in Revelation 11.

 

A remake of Moses and Aaron against Pharaoh.

 

Revelation 9:1-12KJV

9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

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Well -- since all this activity is supposed to happen After the Church is raptured up,  believers won't be experiencing any of it.  It Does give a person something to think about.  Do we know people who Aren't believers and will possibly be alive to experience all of it?  Now is a good time to share the Gospel unto salvation with them.  

 

The creatures described -- they will be real enough to those alive and living during that time.   It's possible to be symbolizing and real at the same time, isn't it?   The bald eagle symbolizes America's freedom And it's a real bird. 

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On 6/22/2018 at 8:06 AM, tugz said:

I think often when we study scripture we look much too hard. Revelation is no doubt a complex book with lots of symbolism but we are given one of the central themes of the book. I’ve seen many people connect Revelation with all kinds of strange things. An example is that many people connect Babylon with the Roman Catholic church. It is just early (ancient) Babylon.

 

If you look at the creatures in the early Babylonian and Assyrian religion you will see these creatures. For example. Starting in Revelation 9:7 we see that the description of the scorpion men

Scorpion man - Wikipedia

This description matches a creature in the early Assyrian religion. Also looking at the end of 9 we creatures that describe the

Lamassu - Wikipedia

 

It’s also interesting in Isaiah 14 Lucifer is recognized as an Assyrian.

 

This same thing with Daniel. Daniel was raised Chaldean and these are often the type of creatures he was describing.

 

Does anybody have a similar perspective?

 

How the old pagan empires used their symbols is one thing; and how God uses symbols is another thing.

 

In Rev.9 with the scorpion symbol, God is simply using the idea of a 'real' scorpion in nature, how it attacks its prey. He is not using a symbol from pagan Babylon.

 

So to not understand how God is using the scorpion in Rev.9 as an analogy is to miss His Message there.

 

How then does a real scorpion work? It stings its prey, numbing it. Then it regurgitates an acidic fluid into the victim's mouth which turns the victim's insides to mush. Then the scorpion sucks up the mush out of the victim leaving the victim like an empty shell.

 

The whole idea is meant in the spiritual sense of how the locusts attack their prey. The literal meaning is what comes out of the locust's mouths (words) will cause spiritual deception. And in our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse warning for the end, the very first warning He gave was to not allow any many to deceive us (Matt.24). This explains why the locusts can only sting those not sealed for five months, and they cannot kill them, but only sting.

 

But for those of us who are sealed with God's seal, though we are not subjected to that stinging, we will still be here, and some of us will be delivered up (Mark 13).

 

 

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