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Jesus Disrespected Lots of People.

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As we continue here in our acquisition of Theology, that is, "the Knowledge of Theos," it will be finely relevant to review how Jesus disrespected many groups and individuals for their religious beliefs. This comes now upon the recent finding that vast numbers of Christians cannot believe that anyone would disrespect the Religious Beliefs of another person.

 

1.) Jesus in His Earthly Ministry fundamentally disrespected all nonJews because He "Came but to The House of Israel."

 

2.) Testimony worthy of being recorded as The Word of God was given that Jesus "Is not a respector of persons."

 

3.) Jesus trolled The Temple Pharisees as a very young man by first discussing Theology and Law with them, then later as a Theologian At Large called them "a brood of vipers, hypocrites, sons of the Devil, liars, blind guides, whitened sepulchres, and fools."

 

4.) Jesus based His Ministry of Disrespect upon His heritage portrayed in Luke 4:16-30 where he again trolled His own home town fellow Jews on The Sabbath in their Synagogue by first ingratiating them to Himself, then immediately accusing and judging them for acts they had not yet committed. He purposefully did so to cause them to attempt to unlawfully kill Him, opposite to His teaching that it is wrong to cause another person to morally stumble. This shows how intent Jesus was to disrespect people by breaking His own teaching.

 

5.) Jesus Disrespected the Religious beliefs of the Woman at The Well by showing that her beliefs were insufficient. Then, He made personal remarks about her unrelated to Theological issues.

 

6.) Jesus disrespected the Religious beliefs of The Greek Syrophoenician Woman groveling at His feet by calling her a "dog." She came to Him the best she knew to do, and He disrespected her merely for her ethnic heritage.

 

7. ) Two examples of Jesus disrespecting Apostle Peter are His calling Peter "Satan" when Peter was ready to do his best to love and protect Jesus from harm, and when Jesus did not expect the best from Peter by praying for Peter's need but rather told Peter he would miserably fail by soon denying Him. The self fulfilling prophecy then occurred.

 

8.) Jesus disrespected the religious beliefs of the Multitudes hearing His Sermon on the Mount by stating their prima facie pursuit of The Mosaic Law was in error, then gave them such an elevated standard of The Mosaic Law they had even less hope to ever follow it.

 

We can praise Our Father for His marvelously preserved printed record in Scripture of these things for our use and edification, making our Theology a Sure Footing. Amen, and Amen.

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Jesus in His Earthly Ministry fundamentally disrespected all nonJews because He "Came but to The House of Israel."

Jesus came to die to save all people, both Jews and gentiles, from their sins. It was only before his death and resurrection that he limited his ministry to Jews.

 

Testimony worthy of being recorded as The Word of God was given that Jesus "Is not a respector of persons."

This is a different meaning of the word "respect". It means Jesus doesn't consider some classes of people better than others and actually contradicts some of the statements you have made.

 

Jesus Disrespected the Religious beliefs of the Woman at The Well by showing that her beliefs were insufficient. Then, He made personal remarks about her unrelated to Theological issues.

He didn't disrespectl her beliefs; he pointed out what was wrong with them so he could correct them. Everything he said to her was intended to make her realize her need of a savior and to show her that he was the savior she needed.

 

Jesus disrespected the Religious beliefs of The Greek Syrophoenician Woman groveling at His feet by calling her a "dog." She came to Him the best she knew to do, and He disrespected her merely for her ethnic heritage.

He wasn't showing disrespect; he was testing her faith and she passed the test.

 

Two examples of Jesus disrespecting Apostle Peter are His calling Peter "Satan" when Peter was ready to do his best to love and protect Jesus from harm, and when Jesus did not expect the best from Peter by praying for Peter's need but rather told Peter he would miserably fail by soon denying Him. The self fulfilling prophecy then occurred.

He called Peter Satan because he was acting in accord with his fleshly nature rather than being motivated by the Holy Spirit. He prayed for Peter and foretold his failure because he knew Peter's weakness; he showed his respect for Peter by restoring him to fellowship and making him the leader of the apostles.

 

Jesus disrespected the religious beliefs of the Multitudes hearing His Sermon on the Mount by stating their prima facie pursuit of The Mosaic Law was in error, then gave them such an elevated standard of The Mosaic Law they had even less hope to ever follow it.

He didn't disrespect their beliefs but showed them how they fell short of the truth.

 

We can praise Our Father for His marvelously preserved printed record in Scripture of these things for our use and edification, making our Theology a Sure Footing. Amen, and Amen.

Amen! God has given us a perfect Scripture to guide and teach us; however some of the statements you made make me wonder just how well you understand it.

 

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As we continue here in our acquisition of Theology, that is, "the Knowledge of Theos," it will be finely relevant to review how Jesus disrespected many groups and individuals for their religious beliefs. This comes now upon the recent finding that vast numbers of Christians cannot believe that anyone would disrespect the Religious Beliefs of another person.

 

1.) Jesus in His Earthly Ministry fundamentally disrespected all nonJews because He "Came but to The House of Israel."

 

2.) Testimony worthy of being recorded as The Word of God was given that Jesus "Is not a respector of persons."

 

3.) Jesus trolled The Temple Pharisees as a very young man by first discussing Theology and Law with them, then later as a Theologian At Large called them "a brood of vipers, hypocrites, sons of the Devil, liars, blind guides, whitened sepulchres, and fools."

 

4.) Jesus based His Ministry of Disrespect upon His heritage portrayed in Luke 4:16-30 where he again trolled His own home town fellow Jews on The Sabbath in their Synagogue by first ingratiating them to Himself, then immediately accusing and judging them for acts they had not yet committed. He purposefully did so to cause them to attempt to unlawfully kill Him, opposite to His teaching that it is wrong to cause another person to morally stumble. This shows how intent Jesus was to disrespect people by breaking His own teaching.

 

5.) Jesus Disrespected the Religious beliefs of the Woman at The Well by showing that her beliefs were insufficient. Then, He made personal remarks about her unrelated to Theological issues.

 

6.) Jesus disrespected the Religious beliefs of The Greek Syrophoenician Woman groveling at His feet by calling her a "dog." She came to Him the best she knew to do, and He disrespected her merely for her ethnic heritage.

 

7. ) Two examples of Jesus disrespecting Apostle Peter are His calling Peter "Satan" when Peter was ready to do his best to love and protect Jesus from harm, and when Jesus did not expect the best from Peter by praying for Peter's need but rather told Peter he would miserably fail by soon denying Him. The self fulfilling prophecy then occurred.

 

8.) Jesus disrespected the religious beliefs of the Multitudes hearing His Sermon on the Mount by stating their prima facie pursuit of The Mosaic Law was in error, then gave them such an elevated standard of The Mosaic Law they had even less hope to ever follow it.

 

We can praise Our Father for His marvelously preserved printed record in Scripture of these things for our use and edification, making our Theology a Sure Footing. Amen, and Amen.

 

Is there a reason why you're posting in the Reformed section of this forum?

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Jesus came to die to save all people, both Jews and gentiles, from their sins. It was only before his death and resurrection that he limited his ministry to Jews.

 

 

This is a different meaning of the word "respect". It means Jesus doesn't consider some classes of people better than others and actually contradicts some of the statements you have made.

 

 

He didn't disrespectl her beliefs; he pointed out what was wrong with them so he could correct them. Everything he said to her was intended to make her realize her need of a savior and to show her that he was the savior she needed.

 

 

He wasn't showing disrespect; he was testing her faith and she passed the test.

 

 

He called Peter Satan because he was acting in accord with his fleshly nature rather than being motivated by the Holy Spirit. He prayed for Peter and foretold his failure because he knew Peter's weakness; he showed his respect for Peter by restoring him to fellowship and making him the leader of the apostles.

 

 

He didn't disrespect their beliefs but showed them how they fell short of the truth.

 

 

Amen! God has given us a perfect Scripture to guide and teach us; however some of the statements you made make me wonder just how well you understand it.

 

Thank you for coming to me with your best ideas. And, I am not at all surprised or in wonderment to see them from someone as yourself in here.

 

Jesus came with the combined purposes of both disrespecting and supposedly saving all Men. Jesus had no time to waste upon those not culturally prepared for thousands of years for Him, and for those such as His Mother who refused to get with The Program.

 

Jesus did indeed consider The Jews a better class of people. Try to remember the basic working definitions of standard English words. Jesus did not split grammatical hair sized issues of word definition, as many busy talkers do.

 

Jesus did not respect, encourage, affirm, or compliment any of the religious beliefs of The Fornication Woman At The Well. He only issued to her directives and criticism. And, He did not want to convey the Gospel of Salvation to her.

 

Jesus did not say He was "testing the faith" of The Greek Syrophoenician Woman. Such a notion comes from a feminine habit of reading in between the lines to supposedly "Just See How Things Seem To Be! Tsk! Women Can Do That!" Real Christians do not add their imaginative suppositions to the Word of God regardless of how many preachers tell them to.

 

Jesus knew full well Peter within his commissioned role as Head Apostle would fail again as Apostle James later displaced him as the leader of The Jerusalem Church. Jesus was warning all people who are like Peter in their hearts to not be Apostles or Pastors.

 

Please tell me, do the words from other people "make you" think a certain way ... ? Pity. Jesus never taught His Followers to be so easily swayed by the words of others.

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Is there a reason why you're posting in the Reformed section of this forum?

 

Indeed there are the Finest of Reasons.

 

Reformed Theology Adherents have the most excellent skills of discernment upon The Work and Ministry of Christ. If there are not the most useful and Godly axiomatic treatments provided herein by Reformed Theology folks in response to all issues, then there exists no useable discussion or determinations in any other place.

 

I pray all Reformed Theology Followers in here will attain the fullest commensurate measure of their every expressed word and promotion.

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Indeed there is the Finest of Reasons.

 

Reformed Theology Adherents have the most excellent skills of discernment upon The Work and Ministry of Christ. If there are not the finest axiomatic treatments provided herein by Reformed Theology folks in response to all issues, then there exists no useable discussion or determinations in any other place.

 

I pray all Reformed Theology Followers in here will attain the full measure of their every expressed word and promotion.

 

Thread has been moved to Bible Study. I find nothing from your post to do with Reformation Theology. Don't let that discourage you though. In your initial post you shared with us your definition of Theology. May I also suggest that "Religion is chiefly the study of a certain kind of human behavior, be it under the rubric of anthropology, sociology, or psychology. The study of Theology, on the other hand, is the study of God. Religion is anthropocentric; theology is theocentric. The difference between religion and theology is ultimately the difference between God and man - hardly a small difference." - R C Sproul

 

Again, it is a difference of subject matter. The subject of Theology proper is God; the subject matter of Religion is man.

 

I'd also like to offer my observation about this board. Generally, depending on whose active on the board, the forum seemingly shifts from Theology to Religion and back at times. Especially when speaking of politics, that topic brings about many people appearing more Religious in nature than Theological.

 

God bless,

William

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1.) Jesus in His Earthly Ministry fundamentally disrespected all non-Jews because He "Came but to The House of Israel."

 

Hi JaWanda, here are a few interesting quotes for you to consider:

 

19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all the
[Greek/Gentile]
nations
, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" ~
Matthew 28

 

15 And He said to them, “Go into
all the world
and preach the gospel to
all
creation
." ~
Mark 16

 

14 “I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me,

15 even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.

16
I have
other
sheep,
which are not of this fold;
I must bring them also
, and they will hear My voice; and
they will become one flock with one shepherd.
" ~Jo
hn 10

 

8 "You will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and
in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”
~
Acts 1

 

15 "The Lord said to him, “Go, for he [Paul] is a chosen instrument of Mine,
to bear My name before the Gentiles
and kings and the sons of Israel" ~
Acts 9

Finally, in Matthew 15/Mark 7, where the Lord told us He was sent to, "the lost sheep of the house of Israel alone", we know that He was 'already' in the land of the Gentiles/"dogs" (Tyre and Sidon) when He said that, and that He chose to feed the hungry, heal the sick, the blind, and the demon possessed while He was there, and to minister to all their spiritual needs as well (which included the daughter of the Canaanite woman .. the one He referred to as a "dog" .. Mark 7:24).

 

Perhaps it would be worth your time to take a second look at those two passages and try to figure out what was 'actually' going on (IOW, why the Lord said the things He did ;)) because, clearly, He chose to minister to the "Nations" (and the "dogs" who made them up) while He was living among us, even though He said that He would not!!

 

*(Not to mention that His final words to us, both before ..Matthew 28:19-20/Acts 1:8 .. and after .. Acts 15:9/Acts 10:15, 34-35 .. His Ascension, focused both His Apostles' and His Disciples' ministries toward BOTH the Jew AND the Gentile .. Romans 1:16 .. which remains true for us today :)).

 

Yours in Christ,

David

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi JaWanda, here are a few interesting quotes for you to consider:

 

 

Finally, in Matthew 15/Mark 7, where the Lord told us He was sent to, "the lost sheep of the house of Israel alone", we know that He was 'already' in the land of the Gentiles/"dogs" (Tyre and Sidon) when He said that, and that He chose to feed the hungry, heal the sick, the blind, and the demon possessed while He was there, and to minister to all their spiritual needs as well (which included the daughter of the Canaanite woman .. the one He referred to as a "dog" .. Mark 7:24).

 

Perhaps it would be worth your time to take a second look at those two passages and try to figure out what was 'actually' going on (IOW, why the Lord said the things He did ;)) because, clearly, He chose to minister to the "Nations" (and the "dogs" who made them up) while He was living among us, even though He said that He would not!!

 

*(Not to mention that His final words to us, both before ..Matthew 28:19-20/Acts 1:8 .. and after .. Acts 15:9/Acts 10:15, 34-35 .. His Ascension, focused both His Apostles' and His Disciples' ministries toward BOTH the Jew AND the Gentile .. Romans 1:16 .. which remains true for us today :)).

 

Yours in Christ,

David

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would remind you this thread is not about the statements of Paul, Luke, and First Century Tradition. Rather it is confined to the very words and actions of Christ apart from minioned rubric and traditionally misguided suppositions which endeavor to mix Nonapostolic writings with the facts of Christ.

 

Please tell us, do you value Christ's prima facie axiomatic statements over the mere talk of other men? If you have any answer beyond a simple "Yes," then please put your words in another place.

 

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Thread has been moved to Bible Study. I find nothing from your post to do with Reformation Theology. Don't let that discourage you though. In your initial post you shared with us your definition of Theology. May I also suggest that "Religion is chiefly the study of a certain kind of human behavior, be it under the rubric of anthropology, sociology, or psychology. The study of Theology, on the other hand, is the study of God. Religion is anthropocentric; theology is theocentric. The difference between religion and theology is ultimately the difference between God and man - hardly a small difference." - R C Sproul

 

Again, it is a difference of subject matter. The subject of Theology proper is God; the subject matter of Religion is man.

 

I'd also like to offer my observation about this board. Generally, depending on whose active on the board, the forum seemingly shifts from Theology to Religion and back at times. Especially when speaking of politics, that topic brings about many people appearing more Religious in nature than Theological.

 

God bless,

William

 

 

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Yes, It is easy to know in this Forum the discussion of Christ's Word and Action is not part of Theology.

 

I anticipate for you the most extreme of Godly management upon your very specially derived ideologies. I have complete faith such will happen to you.

 

And, Yes, God has historically and daily continues to Bless me far above all I both imagine and what I would be confined to exist under by well intentioned talkers.

 

For instance, I know first hand God finds what He searches for. What has he found in yourself? Share?

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Yes, It is easy to know in this Forum the discussion of Christ's Word and Action is not part of Theology.

 

I anticipate for you the most extreme of Godly management upon your very specially derived ideologies. I have complete faith such will happen to you.

 

And, Yes, God has historically and daily continues to Bless me far above all I both imagine and what I would be confined to exist under by well intentioned talkers.

 

For instance, I know first hand God finds what He searches for. What has he found in yourself? Share?

Pointless rambling.

 

 

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I would remind you this thread is not about the statements of Paul, Luke, and First Century Tradition. Rather it is confined to the very words and actions of Christ apart from minioned rubric and traditionally misguided suppositions which endeavor to mix Nonapostolic writings with the facts of Christ.

 

Please tell us, do you value Christ's prima facie axiomatic statements over the mere talk of other men? If you have any answer beyond a simple "Yes," then please put your words in another place.

 

H JaWanda, I suppose it's fortunate then that all the verses I posited in post #7 for you to consider would have red ink on them in a red letter Bible ;) IOW, they are all the spoken words of Jesus Christ (including the quotes I gave you from the Acts of the Apostles). Not that it really matters anyway, since all of the words in the entire Bible (OT/NT), whether it's the "red letter" portions or not, ARE the "breathed words" of God .. 2 Timothy 3:16 (written down for us by human beings, of course).

 

Yours in Christ,

David

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I would remind you this thread is not about the statements of Paul, Luke, and First Century Tradition. Rather it is confined to the very words and actions of Christ apart from minioned rubric and traditionally misguided suppositions which endeavor to mix Nonapostolic writings with the facts of Christ.

 

Please tell us, do you value Christ's prima facie axiomatic statements over the mere talk of other men? If you have any answer beyond a simple "Yes," then please put your words in another place.

 

Hi again JaWanda, do I value what Christ has to say more than I do, "the mere talk of other men"? Of course, He's God, our Creator and our Sustainer (i.e. - John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; Hebrews 11:3). But it is, "mere men", who wrote the words of the Bible down for us (save those that we find in Exodus 20 that were originally inscribed on two tablets of stone, of course ;)), INCLUDING all the words we find in red in our red letter editions of the Bible. The entire Bible is the word of God (as I just said above), not the portions printed in red alone!! IOW, NONE of it is, "the mere talk of other men"!!

 

In Christ,

David

 

 

 

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What I always try to remind people when they talk about Jesus is that He is and has always been and forever will be HIGHER than men.

For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.
So even if you were to contest disrespect when someone is called a fool because he is a fool (by comparison) that is no disrespect, it just is stating the facts. Jesus is not an equal of men. Never was and never will be.
. . .all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment.
When it is pointed out that we are filthy, we are liars, sinners is that an insult or the truth? And as for the new commandments Jesus gave, the time had come for people to do exactly what God had always expected of them. Why is it so hard for people to love others? Isn't that what Jesus taught? Love your neighbor as yourself? Don't all celestial beings in heaven love each other? Isn't that the home we want be in? How can we fit in then if we can't love each other here on earth?
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I wouldn't necessarily phrase it the way you did. He wanted people to realize what they were doing and what he was doing this for.

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Well, you can really trace through all the history and translations and all of that, and the truth is that you will find some ugly things. I think it is pretty foolish to have come this far and really still think that they we are told things is exactly how they were. That said, hearing things like this in no way takes away from anything that I believe or my faith in any way. If anything, it is interesting and good to know, and I will just leave it at that. It is interesting though, so thanks for sharing.

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Greetings all,

 

Our world view is influenced by our surroundings (time and location). If there's an apparent disconnect between Bible teaching and the currently accepted "truth", tread very carefully. If there's a need to choose up sides, we want to side with Jesus. Yes Jesus said this:

 

John 4:22 Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know: for salvation is from the Jews.

 

The wisdom of our current world teaches that all of its great religions lead to eternity. How does that square with this verse?

 

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

The apostle Paul tells us that the SEED promised to Abraham is ONE person - Jesus:

 

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham were the promises spoken, and to his seed. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

 

That promise is recorded in Genesis:

 

Gen 13:14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art, northward and southward and eastward and westward: 13:15 for all the land which thou see, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

 

And this has a lot to do with salvation coming through the Jews:

 

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ. 3:28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female: for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus. 3:29 And if ye are Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, heirs according to promise.

 

What might seem to be a lack of respect upon first glance could easily be a test. It is not hard to see the test in the following:

 

Matt 15:25 But she came and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.15:26 And he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread and cast it to the dogs. 15:27 But she said, Yea, Lord: for even the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it done unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was healed from that hour.

One of the tests that we encounter relates to our respect for the word of God. The disciples ask Jesus why he spoke in parables:

 

Matt 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 13:11 And he answered and said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

 

The symbology used in parables is explained in other parts of the Bible. Those who respect God's word to the extent that they read it find these explanatory links required to understand the parables. Here's an example:

 

Matt 24:3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

 

Matt 24:32 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh;

 

 

Hosea 9:10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first season:

 

Jeremiah 24:5 Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I regard the captives of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans, for good.

 

In other words, the rebirth of Israel is the sign from Jesus that his return is near. And YES he will literally return to earth and stand on the Mount of Olives:

 

Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,

 

And at that point, the promise to Abraham will be fulfilled because his seed Jesus will establish the kingdom of God on earth with his throne in Jerusalem:

 

Jeremiah 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my strong hold, and my refuge in the day of affliction, unto thee shall the nations come from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Our fathers have inherited nought but lies, even vanity and things wherein there is no profit.

 

 

Zechariah 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.

 

Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall the LORD be one, and his name one. 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 

 

Psalm 2:6 Yet I have set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 2:7 I will tell of the decree: the LORD said unto me, Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. 2:8 Ask of me, and I will give thee the nations for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

 

Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 1:33 and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

 

 

We non Jews need to recognise that we are Jews by adoption as Paul explained in Gal 3.29. And his letter to the Romans:

 

Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

 

 

 

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John 4:22 Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know: for salvation is from the Jews.

 

The wisdom of our current world teaches that all of its great religions lead to eternity. How does that square with this verse?

 

G'day Pah,

 

I think before we insist that Jesus was rude to the Samaritan woman that was obviously called and regenerated, that we should consider the context. The Samaritans only had the Pentateuch - As a result, they accepted Deuteronomy 12:5 as authoritative...

 

D.A. Carson explains the Jewish interpretation as follows:

 

the Jew concluded Jerusalem was the place: there David determined to build a temple to God, and God solemnly authorized his son Solomon to do so. There sacrifice was divinely sanctioned, the temple site retaining its significance when Zerubbabel rebuilt it after it was destroyed, and when later still Herod embellished it.

Of course, none of this is found in the Pentateuch, and so none of this would have been convincing to a Samaritan. The Samaritans used the following Pentateuch-based logic to support their identification of "the place" as Gerizim:

  • The first place Abraham built an altar after entering the Promised Land was in Shechem, overlooked by Mount Gerizim
  • God instructed the covenant community to shout the blessings from Mount Gerizim once they had entered the promised land (Dt. 11:29-30; 27:2-7, 12)
  • Both instances of the 10 Commandments (Ex. 20:17, Dt. 5:21) in the Samaritan Bible are followed by words very similar to those found in (Dt. 27:2-7), tying the Commandments themselves to Gerizim.

Secondly, the Hebrew Bible prophetically claimed Jesus would be born a Jew Isaiah 7:14. Speaking truth is not considered rude, but rather factual, we cannot assume the tone Jesus spoke from these Scriptures as though Jesus snapped at the woman like a rabid dog, but based on the conversation He exhibited great patience and led her quite lovingly. Jesus obviously could have shunned the woman for it was improper for a Jew to speak to a Samaritan, nevertheless a Samaritan woman, but that wasn't the case, Jesus crossed cultural barriers in order to reach out to the Gentiles.

 

God bless,

William

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William,

 

I agree. Jesus was not rude. He told the truth. And at times, that truth needed to be direct. Matt 23 for example. Jesus knew their hearts . . . and our hearts.

 

Mat 9:4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?

 

 

PAH

 

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