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  1. Correct, but I was referencing the English word church as use in the Bible. It may have been a little off topic as you point out, but the rest of my submission is not dependent on that reference.
  2. Correct the word church means an assemble, it can also mean a building, temple, al so. Acts 19:37 For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither robbers of churches, nor yet blasphemers of your goddess. The nation of Israel was an assembly, not of Spirit filled Christian though. To enter into the Church, assembly of believers, one has to be born again, born of the Spirit. John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) The OT saints could not be born again as they could not receive the Spirit as Christ had not paid for their sins as yet. It was not absent from the body present with the Lord, it was absent from the body present in Abraham’s bosom. Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: Therefore, the Church could not have started before the death of the testator, New Testament. What was the promise? Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. When did the Apostles and such receive the Spirit. John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: But, who were the first to enter into the kingdom of God, into heaven and be with the Lord? Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. Upon his assension he emptied Abraham’s bosom. After his ascention he returned to give the Holy Spirt to believers. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father.... So I would be of the opinion based on this that the Church, assembly of believers, started with captivity being led captive, at the very start of the New Testament. Just an opinion.
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    The Forbidden Fruit

    If I had to choose I would say it was a grape. Numbers 6:4 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk. Deuteronomy 32:14 Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.
  4. Romans 12:17-18 KJV Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Matthew 5:44 KJV But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Romans 12:19 KJV Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Philippians 1:29 KJV For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; The prophetic utterances concerning the end times are not just one possible future, they are the future. It is not our purpose to fight against it, to do so is to fight against God. Ours is a spiritual battle and if you desire to have any success as a Christian you had better start listening to how God's word tells you to fight it. 2 Timothy 2:4 KJV No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. Our battle is not with Plan Parenthood or to stop sin by force. "It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice." -Mahatma Gandhi If we lived the life we are suppose to, if we fought the fight we are suppose to, it we fought the way we are suppose to, we might change some lives. 1 Corinthians 13:13 KJV And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. 1 Corinthians 13:4 KJV Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 1 Corinthians 16:14 KJV Let all your things be done with charity.
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    Seemingly Anti-OSAS Scriptures

    Ecclesiastes 3:14 KJV I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. Matthew 25:46 KJV And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Romans 6:23 KJV For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. If you can lose it, it is not eternal! From the Cross to the Rapture is the dispensation of the Liberty in Christ. The liberty is that we received eternal life upon believing and do not have to worry about losing it as in the OT as they were not, could not, be seal with the Spirit of God and will not be after the Rapture. They had to and will have to endure until the end. 1 John 5:13 KJV These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
  6. 1 Timothy 4:1-5 KJV Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
  7. There is no English in the world equal to that found in the 1611 Bible. The revisers knew more Greek, and less English. Whether the original text was inspired or not, I have never felt any doubt as to the divine inspiration of the version of 1611. "Reading the Bible", William Lyon Phelps 1865-1943 Lampson professor of English literature at Yale The Mackmillan Co., 1919
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    Seemingly Anti-OSAS Scriptures

    2 Peter 2:20-21 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. We are going to find that the same thing is true here as in other passages, the verses are taken out of context. The subject of the chapter is as there were false prophets, there are false teachers. It is a comparison, a double comparison; the false teachers of chapter two contrasted against the holy men of the preceding chapter and being comparable with the false prophets of the Old Testament. 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. Verse nine gives us the comparison of the save vs the lost. 2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: Again, we are told who is being spoken about in verses 20 & 21? 2 Peter 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 2 Peter 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. This is not the description of a saved man, these never understood. It is the false teachers; it is their judgment being spoken of. 2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:... If you will read chapter one, you will see that chapter two is just a continuation and the comparison is between those holy men God spoke to, who accepted God's word and these false teachers that do not. To further cinch my contention that no one is losing their salvation the Lord gives us the example of Lot for us to understand the security of the believer. 2 Peter 2:7-8 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; What is Lot's testimony of faith toward God? He certainly is not one of the hero's of the faith of Hebrews chapter eleven. He was greedy, materialistic and his family so unaccustomed to righteous living and teaching about God that the one time he is shown to preach the truth his children think he is drunk or out or his mind. He had chosen to live and remain among the sodomites for his own personal gain, to the detriment and lose of his own family. One time and one time only is Lot shown to have had faith in what God said, when he was told to flee the wrath to come. He did not live godly before or after, yet is describe as a "righteous" man. He is put here to emphasize that God is not condemning the saved. No one is losing salvation in this chapter nor anywhere else in the Scriptures. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.... When the Spirit of God made his abode in us, we passed from death unto life; there is no going back. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. If I were to take the Scriptures out of their context like so many others, I would be forced to conclude that the only way to lose your salvation would be to try and keep it by works. Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. One can make the Bible teach anything by taking its passages out of their context. context, Context, CONTEXT Adapted from: Liberty in Christ
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