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    Is all that needs to be known about scripture known?

    Not if He is following Pope Francis.He is a heretic. If he applies the tenets of the faith taught in scripture and knows and confesses the statement of faith as revealed by the Holy Spirit in Elisabeth,then yes. The confessing by which all spirits must be tested is in Luke 1:42 "and she exclaimed with a loud cry, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb" and we know this is only in reference to Mary and the Incarnation of Christ. All spirits must be able to proclaim this of Mary and Jesus whether in man or if a spirit claims to be from heaven and is delivering a message. " Blessed is Mary among women and Blessed is the fruit of her womb, Jesus" Elisabeth was the first outside of Gabriel the arch angel to make this confessing of the faith he said the same thing using different words " Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you" You have found favor with God. This is what 1 John:4-6. is referring to. If this can not be confessed then we know the spirit of antichrist. To, not be able to say this or to refuse to- is to deny Christ came in the flesh.
  2. Wisdom'sFruit

    Is all that needs to be known about scripture known?

    I will leave of my own accord. What I know is hard to digest for those set in their ways. I was not seeking a long drawn at battle of knowledge. I really thought- some of what I say would be received by whom it was intended for.God Bless!
  3. Wisdom'sFruit

    Is all that needs to be known about scripture known?

    How about this: Does regeneration stop? Can it be considered to be an eternal act? I get it... to Protestants regeneration is considered to be "Born Again" and that you believe you are "Born Again" and there is only one application of the Holy Spirit, though the Apostles had multiple applications in various degrees, each degree imparting new knowledge. So, Protestants think it is a wrap? And that they are the ONLY TRUE teachers of the world. Titus 3:!-8 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. 3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people. Here Titus uses regeneration as I do as a renewal of the Holy Spirit. And the washing he is referring to is baptism by water, hence WASHING; for the further cleansing then comes as FIRE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. This is continuing the initial beginning' of regeneration. First cleansing, once found then refinement by fire. And since the Holy Spirit is ETERNAL refinement is eternal. Matthew 3:11John the Baptist told a large crowd that had gathered where he was baptizing, “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” Now John we know was filled with the Holy Spirit and his portion was the baptism (cleansing water). He says He who comes after Him shall Baptize with the Holy Spirit and fire. So , he is saying Christ too will baptize with the Holy Spirit and it is with the Fire portion of the knowledge which refines. And Titus is telling us regeneration is the washing and the renewal comes by Christ and renewal is the continuation of the first work with deeper affects. Does the Holy Spirit ever end? Can that which is eternal ever have a completion? The only completion there is, is that of the temporal and hence the putting to death of sin." IT IS COMPLETION " So, I am not wrong in my understanding of regeneration and renewal as ETERNAL and do not cease to be as Eternal as our Lord. This is my understanding of regeneration. And do not take one little portion of what I say as the sum of what I said. I will reiterate: then given in various degrees eternally as our Father is. God Bless!
  4. Wisdom'sFruit

    Is all that needs to be known about scripture known?

    I did NOT say all Protestants believe in Baptismal regeneration, I do. I did not say we are partially BORN AGAIN , you interpret what I said that way, I simply stated that there is a continual process of RENEWAL= Regeneration, concerning the Spiritual Application of Continuous knowledge. The Knowledge of God is Eternal so, there is ALWAYS something to learn. Hence continual REGENERATION. And this is proven in the Fact that the Apostles received multiple applications of the Holy Spirit which ALWAYS gave them NEW KNOWLEDGE and gifts. That is REGENERATION! Born Again is the the fullness of the Immaculate Conception leading to our Spiritual Virginity. Virginity means: unsoiled, untouched, CLEAN. Hence is why God the Father chose a VIRGIN. All that happens to the Hebrew of scripture happens to the Bride. Obviously, this in regard to the soul ." BORN AGAIN" a return to our purity as intended at creation spiritually. Lastly my hands are not over my ears, I am not misquoting you! You are misquoting me. As for my knowledge of biology..... the point is I know the meaning of regeneration in every sense of the word. And since Original Sin is passed from generation to generation prior to Christ- and has its affect on us physically , this means it IS PASSED DOWN THROUGH OUR DNA, this too is conquered in Christ. You are the ONLY ONE getting irate. And YES baptism is administered with the Holy Spirit, FOR JOHN WAS FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, to make straight the way of the Lord. By telling us to confess and repent and be baptized. Anyone can say : 'Confess be baptized, but he being filled with the Holy Spirit means: It has a SUPERNATURAL affect on the recipient. And the precursor to this is in 2Kings5:8-10Naaman Cured of Leprosy …9So Naaman came with his horses and his chariots and stood at the doorway of the house of Elisha. 10Elisha sent a messenger to him, saying, "Go and wash in the Jordan seven times, and your flesh will be restored to you and you will be clean." 11But Naaman was furious and went away and said, "Behold, I thought, 'He will surely come out to me and stand and call on the name of the LORD his God, and wave his hand over the place and cure the leper.'… Was it the water itself which cleansed him? Or was it the SPIRIT OF GOD? Though he protested he did what he was told and believed, and was cleansed. So John the Baptist did cleanse with the HOLY SPIRIT the stain of ORIGINAL SIN! And He instituted this RITE, by his anointing. Now , dare try to tell me this too is wrong? And the irony of this? Elisha the protege of ELIJAH, the Spirit in which John the Baptist comes in- is this, precursor done. God Bless!
  5. Wisdom'sFruit

    Is all that needs to be known about scripture known?

    I know what REGENERATION means. Spiritual and physically= in even biology sense. We see continually regeneration in the multiple application of the Holy Spirit by Christ. It isn't just as you denominational father's state it: Baptism- a beginning of regeneration. John20:21-22…21Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” 22When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld.”… Another application of the regenerating Spirit. Acts 2:3-5…3They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. 5Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven.… Another application of the Regenerating Spirit of God. My point.... is regeneration a continual process for us on earth as- in multiple applications of the Holy Spirit like with the apostles? And what new things are you open to? And maybe you do not realize what regeneration means: Continual renewal. Regeneration on earth is necessary for us just as for the apostles. No, one is above them in that necessity.
  6. Do you feel that, denominations tend to only cling to what was laid by denominational father's? With that said,are we to believe all that is to be understood in scripture - is a wrap? Or is the Word Eternal and ever filled with revelation and meaning, that when revealed and found indisputable should be applied by believers? Is this continual REGENERATION? Another words, is it sinful to believe it is a wrap and ones denomination is the begin and end all? I am not saying denominations have not served a purpose, but is there always more to learn than perhaps we already know? Should we be open to this, that Christ continuously breaths life into His People?
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    Lying to the holy spirit!

    Acts 5New King James Version (NKJV) Lying to the Holy Spirit 5 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. 2 And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” 5 Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things. 6 And the young men arose and wrapped him up, carried him out, and buried him. 7 Now it was about three hours later when his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 And Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much?” She said, “Yes, for so much.” 9 Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” 10 Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. 11 So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things. Here we learn there is a penalty for lying to the Holy Spirit. Do you feel all lies told before the Holy Spirit within the Anointed ones , should hold the penalty of death? This of course to glorify God's presents in the chosen ones? So, was the punishment about money or about lying? Is this a lesson about lying to God's people whom He is present in?
  8. Wisdom'sFruit

    Testing spirits.

    [h=1]Matthew 7:21-23King James Version (KJV)[/h] 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. [h=1]1 John 4:1-6King James Version (KJV)[/h] 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. Is the confessing of the faith that John is talking about- in Luke 1:42? Does this fit the bill? Should we test all spirits by this? [h=1]Luke 1:42King James Version (KJV)[/h] 42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
  9. Not surprising. Liberties curtailed, work confiscated, and no lie spoken by me... all understanding backed by scripture and historical facts. I am in good company though. " Be not surprised when people hate and despise you and speak all manner of evil against you for no student is above his Master, what they do to you they did to me first." I will rejoice therefore, for I am a partaker in the suffering of Christ. And my prayers will never be hindered. My work is always banned, with no scriptural support by those who ban- or simply blocked by public institutions. Well, the dragon IS ever before the Woman, I always hope it will be different everywhere I go. Makes no difference to God's will , the nourishment time is coming after the fullness is complete. This happens everywhere, even on youtube and with people everywhere I go, I am patient and continue to march on because I know what is coming. God Bless! 1Peter 1:5-7A Living Hope …5who through faith are protected by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer various trials, 7so that the authenticity of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.…
  10. I wanted to elaborate if I may concerning this, not for you so much , but more so to whom your response was for...... but He did not have the same body we all have. The likeness of man is in the fact God was born to man. St. Paul means this of course in the context not that Christ's flesh in the Incarnation was defiled or sinful, but along the lines as other scripture points out the righteous for the unrighteous , the innocent for the guilty. Like an unblemished lamb and upon Him was put on our sins. He took from our flesh our sins and placed them upon Himself and nailed them to the cross, that tree. He became sin though no sin did He commit. 1Peter 3:18 For indeed Christ died for sins once for all, the Just and Righteous for the unjust and unrighteous [the Innocent for the guilty] so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit; For Christ [the Messiah Himself] died for sins once for all, the Righteous for the unrighteous ...
  11. I am going to assume this is what you are using concerning the Rosary. Is the Rosary a prayer to God, a meditation on scripture and an asking for the Saints to pray for you, or a prayer to Mary as God? Now repetition is not a sin. Protestants and all others use scripture repetitiously all the time. All of the Rosary is a reciting of scripture repetitiously when praying for others and asking all of heaven to pray for us on earth. The Rosary includes the greeting of Gabriel the Arch angel, (NOT A SIN TO SAY) the confessing that Christ has come in the flesh " Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus" by Elisabeth, The Glory Be, which use to end as " Is now and ever shall be your WORD" not world without end as Catholics recite now, but even this means the future world to come as to NEW heaven and EARTH. So in this context both are acceptable.. The Apostles creed that was not always " One Holy Catholic and apostolic church" But plainly, one Holy Apostolic Church. This because Catholic is more of a 'Rite" or type of practice of certain Christians. But if I must- I will say, it was applied as meaning 'Universal" meaning a general consensus concerning true faith Christian faith- which should be practiced by all. All the early church venerated Mary and the apostles in prayerful ways since Christianities inception. And many still do- and that is NOT a sin for it is to esteem the Body of Christ. The Rosary IS NOT a Prayer to Mary as God but a confessing of the faith when battling Satan. It is a useful tool when wrestling against evil spirits in ones growth process and meditating on the lives of Yeshua and Miriam and the apostle and for interceding on other's behalf to God. On earth as it is in heaven, this means heaven is a kingdom in which the prayers of the saints go up and the prayers of the Saints come down for us . Do you believe that Mary and the Apostles pray for the Church on earth? Revelation 5:8 shows our prayers are presented to the Lamb by the 24 elders. And obviously they pray for us too, to the Lord. Again, heaven is a kingdom where those who have overcome get and receive a victors crown. Are you saying Mary would not pray for us? That is all the Rosary request. 1Timothy2:11First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered on behalf of all men 2for kings and all those in authority, so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity.… Are you saying that Mary and the apostles would stop praying for us because they are in heaven? That does not sound right to me. So, should we ask another, whom we know is a Saint, we do not have to speculate concerning the first to know- to prayer for us to God, heavenly Saints? Earthly Saint's as well? Maybe you should listen to what the Rosary is really saying. You do not have to say it nor does anyone, but if people do- they should not be condemned by you or anyone. You see the words of the Rosary in scripture, so whether you recite it daily or in passing -discussing scripture, it is there. And as I said repetition is not a sin. You can never have too much of a good thing when it comes to the faith. And yes God is the only recipient of our prayers in the Apostles and Mary and us. Because we are all of and in the Spirit of God, that is those who abide. And the prayer of a righteous man is of great avail. We are all righteous in God in heaven and on earth. You are right only God is Omniscient, Omnipresent , Omnipotent, He is everywhere and all knowing. But there is only one part of Him that is reserved for His Chosen and it is His love which is the Holy Spirit that is the mutual Love between He and His Son. And this is the Holy of Holies, this is He in us and we in Him. Psalms 82:5-7 5They do not know nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. 7"Nevertheless you will die like men And fall like any one of the princes."… And Christ revealed this at the feast of the dedication at the temple- the Portico of Solomon to be exact. This happens to be the woman's portion of the temple. To those who receive the word and give it to others are gods to those of the world. And Christ meant this like: having a superior knowledge over those of the world. This is what God has chosen the House of God to be. What the pagans were doing is only for the chosen,In that they had multiple deities the fulness of deity is in Christ which we are in, So, in essence all veneration is going to Him when it is given to us. VENERATION- is for us who follow Christ and receive His Word and teach it to others. Those who approach the anointed ones approach the Holy of Holies. God Bless!
  12. I placed this here because all that I am writing pertains to Miriam and the Rev. 12 sign. I'm sorry for you if you feel like a mosquito, I can assure you though, I have bug repellent , I am not bothered, I am covered! God Bless you too!
  13. 7 Books Removed By Martin Luther: 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith , Tobit, Baruch, Sirach and Wisdom also later the Books of Esther and Daniel. These Books are called Deuterocanonicial by Orthodox and the RCC, ( Orthodox as man calls them - predates the RCC). And these Books are called Apocryphal by more recent Jews , (Not ancient Hebrews) and Protestants. These and many other books were read by the Ancient Hebrews (Jews) and are preserved by the Christian Ethiopians plus many other Books including the Books of Enoch which modern day Jews reject because Enoch's writings speak of the Ancient of ancients our Messiah before anyone else of Hebraic teaching's did. This book disturbs Rabbi's, because they can NOT dispute it. They have even resorted to discrediting Isaiah's prophecy of( a virgin shall conceive) and now apply this scripture as a reference to Israel , they are NOW CALLING ISRAEL A VIRGIN! Laughable! Anyways,the Books mentioned were the last books of the Old Testament- written, composed in the last two centuries B.C. . Their omission in the Protestant Bible leaves a chronological gap in the story of Salvation in history. The history of the faith is His Story= God's Story and should not be messed with. This leaves me scratching my head. The Roman Empire- during the Reign of Constantine I,he was an unbaptized catechumen or neophyte , meaning: Ecclesiastical, a person under instruction in the rudiments of Christianity, 2 a person learning the elementary facts. He presided over the opening sessions of the council of Nicaea 325 and took part in the discussion . So a non-believer participated in the compilation of the Bible as presented to the Western world. And though the council sought the knowledge of the Word -from Greek , and Ethiopian and other Orthodox of middle eastern regions- including from the Christ rejecting Jews who shared what we call OT writings, the RCC, somehow thinks they are the begin and end all of the faith. And the Protestants who are busy trying to reform the Harlot thinks it is the TRUTH yet it rejects more truths than the RCC. They have argued in history about Constantine I, whether he was a pagan, Christian , or even a Pope because what he permitted in allowing Christianity to be practiced. I' ll settle this with Christ. Constantine I, lived as a pagan, he was baptized on his death bed, and was never a recipient of the word in Spirit but in compiling knowledge, therefore is no teacher and no Pope. He was a last hour Christian like the thief of the cross. As for Martin Luther rejecting books of Hebraic study that is NOT God's will. The Jews love it though, they who reject the Messiah that is. And are really not Jews, one must be a Jew inwardly to be a true Jew. The false Jews reject these books in an attempt to remove Yeshua from the world. And the Protestants did so to distinguish themselves from the RCC. Also, they did not understand the words. So, as I said as man has moved from the epicenter of the faith , through time, man has fallen farther from the faith in full. That is why I can not accept the father's of Catholic teaching's or Protestant teaching's as undiluted TRUTH. For example the Orthodox Ethiopian Bible has 81 Books, The Protestants have 66, the Catholics 73- are we to believe that because the RCC or the Protestants say something other is acceptable they are speaking for God? Just because they are dominating the scene does NOT mean that God put all His eggs in their baskets. I believe Christians better learn their history. Our faith expands further than the books these two denominations hold. It would seem to me that the little ones would be more apt to hold more truth than them. And lets not forget all the writings are from the Hebrews to begin with. It is in the humble God chooses to reveal Himself fully. We should explore the history of the faith which predates denominations. That is my opinion. What say you in this forum?
  14. First of all no where in scripture is Christ quoted as calling His Church" Universal" this has been applied by church teachers. This in the sense, that belief in Christ should be a universal consensus, meaning: (general agreement) . Universal, meaning: 1. of, affecting or done by all people or things in the world or in particular the group:applicable to all cases. It is relatively a modern term, in that the first church fathers (Apostles) never used it, and is confined largely to the English language. And just because St. Peter is buried in Rome under the Vatican does not mean the RCC is the begin and end all of the faith. Christianity predates Rome's institution of it as it's official religion by centuries. 380 AD is when it became the official religion of Rome. And just because Rome claims everything for itself does not mean it is in Charge, Christ is. St.Peter called Rome, at the end of his first epistle Babylon 1Peter 5: 13, "She =( the Church) who is AT Babylon , who is likewise chosen, sends you greeting's; and so does my son Mark. Greet one another with the kiss of love. And further meaning of her role is in Rev.17-18- also her end is explained in detail. The church was present there in Rome before Rome ever accept Christianity as its official religion. This gives clarity concerning Christ's words "Wherever two or three gather in My name there too am I in the midst of them." Our faith is NOT confined behind the walls of a religious institution. And have you not read: ( Where the body or corpse is there too are the vultures.) Peter is the rock of the church because of his great faith. Even after denying Christ, and descending to such a low spiritual depth, he did not despair unto loss of faith, like Judas. And no other Apostle would have been able to recover from such a depth. This is why he is the Rock and upon him Christ builds His church. Where his corpse is , is NOT where the Church is. The heretics of the Vatican should take note though-( with all their heresies including Pope Francis's teaching of a UNIVERSAL faith in unity with all religions ( Unity prayer of 2016) and many other false teachings; all of which started with Pope John Paul II, concerning this) can be forgiven if they repent . Those who died and did not publicly repent are not forgiven. Nor will Pope Francis be. He makes his heresies public knowledge and encourages the people to buy his false doctrines. This to great destruction. I wanted to further add with this edit: I know Universal comes from the Greek( Pankosmios) but is not used as to name the Church but as more of a consensus= general agreement, as I previously stated. the Holy See or Holy Roman Empire was its first name- Catholic is more along the lines of meaning "Rite". God Bless!
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