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    Are traditional gender roles in marriage bibilcal?

    I am limiting my condemnation to promiscuity and unfaithfulness. My stand is that "Do unto others, just as you would have them do unto you" means that grouping gender differences for any reason, breaks the royal code and so is an abomination to God. That's my MY take on scripture.
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    Searching for answers

    I always strive to treat people just as I would wish them to treat me. So, as a Christian, I would never take your stand against other types of couples. I wouldn't want others telling me that I needed a minister or even a licence to be married. Perhaps you feel the need to pick the ministers denomination for me? As a Christian, I don't feel the need to impose on other couples my preferences and customs.
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    I very much enjoyed "Presbies" youth club in High school.
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    Does the Doctrine of the Trinity Matter?

    As noted, Moses, Abraham, Job and millions of others who died before Jesus was born, managed to gain God's favor with no church created doctrine of a "Trinity." But I'm not saying it's harmful. It's a useful teaching tool even though it's not so important that God included the teaching term inside of scripture.
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    Are traditional gender roles in marriage bibilcal?

    Two issues. 1. "Abomination" is broad term used very freely: Leviticus 11:11 And since you are to regard them as unclean, you ... [TABLE=border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0] [TR] [TD]... ye shall not eat of their flesh, and their carcasses ye shall have in abomination. ... They may not be used for food, and their dead bodies are disgusting to you. Leviticus 7:18 If any meat of the fellowship offering is eaten on ... [TABLE=border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0] [TR] [TD]... shall it be imputed unto him that offereth it: it shall be an abomination,[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Leviticus 11:12 Anything living in the water that does not have [TABLE=border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0] [TR] [TD]fins and scales,that shall be an abomination unto you[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Proverbs 11:1 The LORD detests dishonest scales, but accurate ... [TABLE=border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0] [TR] [TD]... A false balance is an abomination to Jehovah; Leviticus 11:10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do ... [TABLE=border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0] [TR] [TD]... But whatsoever hath not fins and scales, of those things that move and live in the waters, shall be an abomination to you,[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Proverbs 6:16-19 There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 1 Haughty eyes, 2 a lying tongue, 3 And hands that shed innocent blood, 4 A heart that devises wicked plans, 5 Feet that run rapidly to evil, 6 A false witness who utters lies, 7 And one who spreads strife among brothers. Sodom was guilty of many Abominations (note that any "sex crimes" do not even make the list above or below): 48“As I live,” declares the Lord GOD, “Sodom, your sister and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done. 49“Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. 50“Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it. 51“Furthermore, Samaria did not commit half of your sins, for you have multiplied your abominations more than they. Thus you have made your sisters appear righteous by all your abominations which you have committed. But God promises to RESTORE Sodom to it's former state becasue Jerusalem was so much worse and did not embrace it's family and relatives and did not offer housing to strangers. http://biblehub.com/nasb/ezekiel/16.htm And issue #2: Legally only a man and woman could live in the same house according to local customs. All other forms of living arrangements were considered abominations. So when scripture is referring to other types of couples as abominations, it is referring to people who sleep around and are promiscuous or having orgies or sleeping with both men and women freely and often. The reason this is obvious ais that these types of activities are obvious and harmful to society. Having multiple partners and "free love" with multiple people is harmful to all of society. Scripture is not referring to ANY committed relationships as bad. How do I know this? Becasue sex between committed partners is completely invisible, I mean 100% invisible to society. Sex done properly is never a matter of public record. It never leaves behind any abandoned partners, stories, or diseases. It is 100% invisible. If you look closely at these judgmental passages, they are referring to abhorrent behavior and promiscuity. They are not referring to gender preferences though gays do get noted for those having poor and visible behavior.
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    Young earth evidence

    No one has ever come up with the same age twice in a row. So it fails any practical test. Not is the topic covered in different ways by seperate authors. Nor is a young earth even hinted at as a topic in scripture.
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    Young earth evidence

    Of course I am only referring to the ancient hills and mountains as found in scripture. http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=anc...s+OR+mountains
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    Young earth evidence

    No person who has written any scripture thinks that genealogy is provided to date the earth. Not one writer. To do abuse scripture by twisting the purpose of genealogy and use it to date the earth and promote a new cult is a wrong application. Go grab your own study Bible right now. This website has about 50 study guides and versions of scripture: http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=%22young+earth%22
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    Are traditional gender roles in marriage bibilcal?

    Quite the opposite. Unions are what scripture desires of everybody. Non-committed sex, sex outside of marriage, and promiscuity are what the scriptures are referring to and most of us agree they are hard on a person physiology.
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    Are traditional gender roles in marriage bibilcal?

    Originally posted by The Librarian View Post That's not the reason for a hypothetical proposal. It's purpose is to gage ones personal response to a situation that is fictional in nature. Is that the new term for awesome sauce? Hypothetical - definition of hypothetical by The Free Dictionary
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    Are traditional gender roles in marriage bibilcal?

    That's not the reason for a hypothetical proposal. It's purpose is to gage ones personal response to a situation that is fictional in nature. In rebuttal to your view, my cousin has two boys in college with her partner. She had carried one and her partner birthed her brother and all are blood related and well adjusted.
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    Why so many viewers & so few post's?

    I get some serious hostility for ideas I feel are conservative, but others label as progressive, liberal, and often heresy. I try to present them as lovingly as possible.
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    Young earth evidence

    Sure. We can agree on "Ancient" and "Everlasting" then, per scripture.
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    Searching for answers

    You make living together sound easy. It takes a lot of commitment to live with someone and no outside authority can smooth the process.
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    Are traditional gender roles in marriage bibilcal?

    Very good analysis. One may instruct others, only if, they desire to take instruction themselves in return. For this reason there are different allowances for judging believers than non-believers.