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    The Binding of Satan

    I agree with Will and I think the binding of Satan is through the Holy Spirit and that is the success of the Gospel Luke 10: 17-21 17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.” 18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.” 21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do. Wouldn't you agree, this is a picture of Satan being bound, no longer having a stronghold on us. When we are filled with the Holy Spirit Satan no longer has a stronghold in our lives, I believe this is why Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning
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    Who Are the 144,000 in Revelation?

    I agree Will with everything except for the fact you stopped and said lastly at 5, I believe you could have kept going. I think your conclusion is right on here.
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    Prayer Request for Origen

    I am so sorry to hear that, he is in my prayers
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    Hebrews 2:3-4 and the Sign Gifts

    If signs ceased, what do we do with acts 2:17 “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Do you think signs ceased temporarily, that they will return in the last days? If that's the case, shouldn't we as believers actually be looking for those signs, if we believe we are in the last days should we reject signs? 1 Corinthians 13:8 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When completeness comes, to me is speaking of when Christ returns and suggests the church will continue in these things till he returns. What are your thoughts?
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    John 18 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. How is verse 18 not all the world, it seems to cover every single person on the planet, believers and non believers. john 3 16 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. If world does not mean world as in all people, then why is whoever or who so ever used. If world means elect, then whoever believes in him is also wrong instead of whoever. The verse should say. for God so loved the world (elect) that he gave his one and only son, that the world (elect) shall not perish but have eternal life.
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    Thank you for explaining. I am sorry I missed your point.
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    All have sinned, all walked in darkness and hated the light. World means world Yes believers will be judged John 5: 24 is speaking about judgment. We know we will be judged because the church is to be judged first 1st peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? Romans 3:6 world means world here also as nolidad has pointed out, Jesus paid the price for all sin. The price he paid would cover every single person in the world, if they turned to him. world means world I believe nolidad answers this nicely I don't think I need to keep commenting on every scripture you posted. I believe Jesus paid the price for everyone's sin, the whole world. Your suggesting his blood could only redeem a certain number and not one more person. His sacrifice was for the whole world.
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    We are not discussing other parts of the bible, I asked what does it mean in John?
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    with respect verse 16 and 17 use the word world and you say it doesn't mean world, all man kind, even though chapter one would support that, not two verses later you say every man in all the world. How can world not mean world
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    That was unfair I don't understand what you are looking for. I read the passage this way 16 “For God so loved the world, (Everyone) that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world,(everyone) but that the world (everyone)might be saved through Him. 18 He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness (all men, all the world everyone) rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. (all mankind all the world, everyone) 20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. (everyone) 21 But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.” How do you practice the truth, by hearing and doing his word John 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. John 15:3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. John 14 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.” They practice the truth when they hold to his teachings, obeys his commands, listens to his word John chapter one makes it clear he is the creator of the whole world, that he is the light of the whole world and he is the Word that goes out into the whole world, so when he speaks of saving the world. there is no reason to believe otherwise God draws us in with his word. James 1:21 Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. How can or does the word save us? By drawing us to God
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    I don't have a good answer yet I will come back to it soon
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    Originally posted by atpollard so I don’t think that they could really think that all those “world” meant every single person since other parts of the same paragraph talk about some being condemned. There is no reason in those scriptures (John) to believe that John is talking about anything other then planet earth and all those that reside on it. 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. God so loved the world.....all man kind. Into the world to condemn it.....planet. But save the world through him.....all man kind Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son In context who ever believes in him, out of all mankind is not condemned. Who ever does not believe in him in all mankind is condemned Am I reading it in context? Have I added or taken away anything? No, Mary and Joseph did not know him as the Son of God as the savior of the world as the creator "Mark 3.21 When His family heard of it, they went to take Him. They said, “He must be crazy.” Then no they did not know who Jesus was. Did John the Baptist know who he was, not until he saw the dove descend on him and even then while in prison he tells his deciples to ask Jesus is he the Christ. Even seeing and hearing The voice from heaven he is still unsure. He is in the world for 30 years and no one knows him until he starts his ministries Jesus was in the world for 30 years and no one knew he was their creator, That is what John is saying. The world every person did not know him, their God I would read it the same way as, the world did not know him. Context, you told me chapter one was about the creator. John in chapter one is calling him, Jesus the creator and though he was on earth (the creator) no one knew him. The creator
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    I don't understand why you are pointing out, and they shall be taught of God. Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me This is what I am saying, we learn from the Fathers word and we come to Christ. Its his word that draws us to Christ. Remember we are dealing with just John right now, you are adding your theology when you say and Your theology says only the elect hear. Is that what John is saying? John said the world, so I believe all hear, some chose to believe and the majority don't That's true about believers, were is John suggesting that God is not calling all to repentance Same thing again your adding theology to the scripture. Is that what John is saying? its my view All hear some chose to believe some do not Again, I don't see that in the text. Where in context do you get incapable of belief? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me. 26 But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. Jesus said, I told you and you don't believe, they rejected it. (Choice) then he said the works I do testify about me, but they rejected them too. (a choice) Your suggesting that God made them (goats) I don't see that in this text, they chose to be (goats) by rejecting Christ and his word Is my sheep symbolic for believers here? Non of us were his sheep until we believed
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    What about context, would John use a word 7 times in 3 verses and one time it mean something different 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Do you really believe that John meant something other then world? what about chapter one 1:9 9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. Here we have the word world used 4 times and wouldn't you say each time it means "the world" when John says the world knew him not, wasn't he talking about every single person? Why then would John not mean exactly the same thing in chapter 3. he probably wrote it down at the same time he wrote chapter one , the ink might not have even dried yet and his meaning for world would have changed? Let me ask you a personal question, How did you read it the first time? I find it hard to believe that anyone would read it any other way, unless it taught to them
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    When we assume we know what a word means

    I will try to answer your scriptures to the best of my ability, but let me first say, I asked the question because Johns gospel on its own needs to agree with the definitions that are being taught here. Was Johns readers believing he was speaking of the whole world or the elect. How does the Father draw us to him? Wouldn't you say its Gods word that draws us to him. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Gods word is alive its to be preached to all men. Why? I believe we are drawn to God by his word, in that way he draws us to him. Some chose to believe some chose not to, but the call goes out to all. but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me His sheep hear his voice, again his Word. You reject his word you are not his sheep. His word is his call his word draws us, reject his word you reject him. Still our choice I will have to think more on this, I feel he is speaking to the apostels
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