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    How really accurate is the bible?

    Hasn't the bible been changed and altered by man over the centuries? How accurate is it really now?

    #2
    Originally posted by Chasinglight View Post
    Hasn't the bible been changed and altered by man over the centuries? How accurate is it really now?
    No, it hasn't. There are presently 5,686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament by which to compare what we have now to them.

    We have more historical evidence than any other ancient literature:

    Author Date
    Written
    Earliest Copy Approximate Time Span between original & copy Number of Copies Accuracy of Copies
    Lucretius died 55 or 53 B.C. 1100 yrs 2 ----
    Pliny A.D. 61-113 A.D. 850 750 yrs 7 ----
    Plato 427-347 B.C. A.D. 900 1200 yrs 7 ----
    Demosthenes 4th Cent. B.C. A.D. 1100 800 yrs 8 ----
    Herodotus 480-425 B.C. A.D. 900 1300 yrs 8 ----
    Suetonius A.D. 75-160 A.D. 950 800 yrs 8 ----
    Thucydides 460-400 B.C. A.D. 900 1300 yrs 8 ----
    Euripides 480-406 B.C. A.D. 1100 1300 yrs 9 ----
    Aristophanes 450-385 B.C. A.D. 900 1200 10 ----
    Caesar 100-44 B.C. A.D. 900 1000 10 ----
    Livy 59 BC-AD 17 ---- ??? 20 ----
    Tacitus circa A.D. 100 A.D. 1100 1000 yrs 20 ----
    Aristotle 384-322 B.C. A.D. 1100 1400 49 ----
    Sophocles 496-406 B.C. A.D. 1000 1400 yrs 193 ----
    Homer (Iliad) 900 B.C. 400 B.C. 500 yrs 643 95%
    New
    Testament
    1st Cent. A.D. (A.D. 50-100) 2nd Cent. A.D.
    (c. A.D. 130 f.)
    less than 100 years 5600 99.5%

    As you can see, there are thousands more New Testament Greek manuscripts than any other ancient writing. The internal consistency of the New Testament documents is about 99.5% textually pure. That is an amazing accuracy. In addition, there are over 19,000 copies in the Syriac, Latin, Coptic, and Aramaic languages. The total supporting New Testament manuscript base is over 24,000.

    God bless,
    William
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      #3
      Well that is reassuring. Thankyou, William
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        #4
        Man has decided to pick and choose what to believe and what to discard -- that hasn't change the Fact of the Bible being God's Word to us -- mankind.

        It started out in Greek and Hebrew and some Aramaic. Then to Latin and then to the various languages. Translating Any piece of literature from one language to another is going from one alphabet to another. Each language has it's own alphabet and none of them match up exactly. When doing the translating, the idea is to get as close as possible to the intended meaning of the passage. And the figures of speech of language has to be taken into consideration. The translation has to make sense to the new reader or why bother translating. But the message of God's Word hasn't changed. Heaven and hell existing -- will exist and the way To each is explained. A person makes the decision as to where they will end up.

        People don't like some of God's guidelines-- society has gradually gone down hill -- God's Word hasn't changed. So - instead of disregarding parts of God's Word -- why don't we simply read and obey. Our individual works won't get us any closer to heaven -- it's through the cross -- God Does want our heart's obedience. Out of love for Him.

        So -- God's Word is as accurate as it always has been. And God's Word has always been the truth , the way, the life,.
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          #5
          Excellent source to answer the question:

          See and (Dr. Daniel B. Wallace)
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            #6
            Fastfredy0 ---that Is another perspective. So - who Is the authority figure? God's Word as God's inspiration? or man's explanations Of.

            Textual criticism is okay, I guess. But is the aim to build up Scripture or tear it down.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Sue D. View Post
              Textual criticism is okay, I guess. But is the aim to build up Scripture or tear it down.
              The object is truth. God's word is truth. The YOUTUBE article builds up man's understanding of how the Bible was substantiated from ancient writings we have.

              Technically, the English Bible as we read it has minor (insignificant) errors. Consider ...

              II. Hermeneutical Issues Involved in Translation
              A. There is no one to one correspondence between languages.
              B. A good translation should:
              1. be based on the best manuscripts. (manuscripts differ slightly)
              2. be based on the latest knowledge of language and culture.
              3. be accurate.
              4. be understandable.
              5. be contemporary.
              6. be universal.
              7. be dignified.
              8. avoid a theological bias.

              The truth be told, and I assume you want the truth, the Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God AS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN. THERE ARE NO ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS, that is the truth. But scholars put together the various pieces (1000s of them from various places and time) we have to authenticate the BIBLE.

              The truth is the the New Testament, as the YOUTUBE video explains, has approx. 140,000 words and over 400,000 textual variants. The variants are almost all minor and none are doctrinal. Many as minor as spelling mistakes.

              Demonstration:
              Look up John 5:4 in the KJV
              ... now, if you are afraid there is a significant difference then do not read further as that might "tear down Scripture" in some people's opinion






              ... now look up the same verse in the ESV

              .... John 5:4 does not exist in ESV (and most other versions).

              Similarly, older manuscripts are missing 12 verses of Mark 16 and I believe 12 verses at end of John 7, beginning of John 8

              Jerimiah 9:23 Thus says the Lord, “Let not the one who is wise and skillful boast in his insight; let not the one who is mighty and powerful boast in his strength; let not the one who is rich boast in his [temporal satisfactions and earthly] abundance; 24 but let the one who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows Me [and acknowledges Me and honors Me as God and recognizes without any doubt], that I am the Lord who practices lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on the earth, for in these things I delight,” says the Lord.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Chasinglight View Post
                Hasn't the bible been changed and altered by man over the centuries? How accurate is it really now?
                As others have discussed above, there is very good evidence that the Bible we have is trustworthy and, in fact, has been supernaturally preserved so that what we have is God's word. This discussion reminded me of a little book that looks really good on this topic called "Can I Really Trust the Bible?" I haven't read it, but now that I've remembered it I think I'm going to get it.


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                  #9
                  All Scripture is God breathed. God is not a man that he should lie. Hence the Bible is accurate in all that it says and claims.
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                    #10
                    As stated the variants are minor and do not effect one single doctrine of Scripture, so we can read our bibles with confidence assured that we have God's word.99.5% textual accuracy is truly amazing.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eric T. View Post

                      As others have discussed above, there is very good evidence that the Bible we have is trustworthy and, in fact, has been supernaturally preserved so that what we have is God's word. This discussion reminded me of a little book that looks really good on this topic called "Can I Really Trust the Bible?" I haven't read it, but now that I've remembered it I think I'm going to get it.



                      I have a book similar to that -- Why Trust the Bible? Put out by Rose Publishing -- Bible Basics -- How we got the Bible --- Dead sea scrolls -- Prophecies fulfilled by Jesus -- The Gospels: "Lost" and Found -- 50 Proofs; Old Testament -- 50 Proofs: New Testament.

                      Very good reading.
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