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Can a Christian vote as a Democrat?

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The Democratic party has as their plank the right for women to have abortions. This is absolutely against Scripture. So how can a Christian be a Democrat?

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Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.

I am not sure my vote counts.

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Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.

I am not sure my vote counts.

 

That's just what the abortion party wants you to think.

IMO it is a Christians responsibility to VOTE. I served in the Navy, spent 9 months in a Navy Hospital, am disabled because of my service to this country which YOU are a part of. VOTE!

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The Democratic party has as their plank the right for women to have abortions. This is absolutely against Scripture. So how can a Christian be a Democrat?

 

Can't. Can't support an abortion platform, it's a blood vote, you don't want to share in that.

 

 

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I would suspect that a Christian can vote Democrat or Republican depending on the policies of the local candidate as well as the party. There are candidates who go against the party's line on certain topics - so if the situation arose where there was a choice between a pro-choice Republican and a pro-life Democrat, a pro-life Christian may vote for the Democrat.

 

We have a different party structure, but at elections I've had to make choices about who to vote for based on the candidates' expressed views and how likely they are to go against the party line before.

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That's a big if. I am not aware of any Democrat in the U.S. that crosses party lines on abortion, to defund Planned Parenthood, or advocate Pro-life. While I agree with you on your hypothetical, I know of no actual candidate that runs against the party's platform.

 

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William

There are definitely some. I've heard Dan Lipinski mentioned for example, though I don't know his full platform. Democrats for Life has a list of pro-life Democrat candidates for 2018 here: https://www.democratsforlife.org/index.php/2018-candidates

 

 

 

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The one major thing about human beings is our ability to delude ourselves into believing just about anything and justifying that belief in the notion that "Well we aren't perfect, but at least we aren't as bad as the other guy."

We, as Christians have to look deeper than the skin deep, knee jerking sensationalism of American politics and see what values each party promotes and how they treat the opposition, as we are to love our enemies.as we do ourselves.

 

I don't see, as of today any one party that truly holds our values, completely, as they are both more Republican and Democrat than they will ever be Christian, but I can't see anyone who calls themselves Christian, unless their name is Christian, that would support the left in any way. Democrats are not as much of a party as they are a mass voting block of absolute hedonism, without thought or reason, that reaches out to anyone they can manipulate through the use of victimization.

 

Their strength is not of self sufficiency, bur that odf shared quote/unquote misery for the plight they claim to struggling under because of the supposed overwhelming drudgery of a capitalistic country that presumably favors the rich. They play identity politics and class warfare in order to promote envy and jealousy for what other people have and not appreciate what they do have. What the Democratic party leaves those who flock to them is an overwhelming thirst for the very thing that the democratic party can never provide, which is personal satisfaction in being who a person is and what they stand for.

 

They have nothing to give to those who desire what they promise, because if the Democrats were to give everything they promise to those they promise things to, those people would have little use for the Democratic party, since their platform doesn't go any further than "I feel your pain"

 

I know that there are some who operate their lives under the label of being Christian, probably because they listen to the echo chambers of the very people they've always hung around, but I doubt very seriously if any facets of our heavenly Father would ever be in favor of anything coming out of the Democratic party, since the only thing the Democratic party seems to celebrates is the desire to please oneself above all others. I would refer anyone struggling with this to look at what Jesus said when asked:

 

Matthew 22:36 - “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

 

And remember his response

 

Matthew 22:37-40 - 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

 

Enough said.

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I'm in my late 60's -- growing up in a strong Democratic area -- it was Democratic or nothing. There have been years Since I've been able to vote that Neither side had a good candidate so it was a flip of a coin as to who to vote for. In more recent elections , the choices have been more obvious. But we Still do have this thing called freedom to vote our conscience -- secret ballot. The emphasis being on Secret. There are also other platforms to vote for -- Libratarian for example. So -- a Christian is free to vote any party he chooses to -- simply Vote.

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I'm in my late 60's -- growing up in a strong Democratic area -- it was Democratic or nothing. There have been years Since I've been able to vote that Neither side had a good candidate so it was a flip of a coin as to who to vote for. In more recent elections , the choices have been more obvious. But we Still do have this thing called freedom to vote our conscience -- secret ballot. The emphasis being on Secret. There are also other platforms to vote for -- Libratarian for example. So -- a Christian is free to vote any party he chooses to -- simply Vote.

 

I have strong views on what I will support and what I won't, but I am not Republican nor am I a Democrat. I won't box myself in by claiming to be one or the other and I certainly won't be bullied into doing so by people who demand I do so. I've walked away from more than one person trying to chastise me for not, according to them, having the courage of my convictions to stand my ground politically.. To them I give the single finger salute, but with a knowing smile instead of a semantic gesture.Let them think what they will. They don't sign my paycheck and they can't save my soul.

 

Personally, I think the worst thing that the evangelical community ever did was to embrace the Republican party, but the die has been cast and stereotypically the Christian community is surgically connected to the Republican party. That is why, I think the left is going all out for the Muslim community, because they think they will have their own, as they call us, religious nutjobs to bolster their ranks. I think just wonder how far out on a limb the left will go when people start dying, but since it is the guns that kill and not the user of said gun, I'm sure they will have entire libraries of excuses to justify their ignorance.

 

2 Corinthians 6:14 - 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

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There's no such thing as a perfect political candidate -- and there are usually Many issues being considered. The Republican party is usually conservative in nature which does attract the Christian community.

 

Trump was Not my first choice -- but my 'guy' didn't stay in the running very long. Trump has been a unique candidate and President. And, really, who Wanted Clinton to get in. And, having said That -- probably someone on 'here' did. Everyone has their own opinion. It has been said that religion and politics are two topics to avoid in conversation.

 

I'll go out on a limb and say that the Muslim community is dangerous. Their motto has been 'convert or die'. Having said that -- there was a guy on another forum who said he works with Muslim men and they are some of the best workers and friends he's had. And there are those who have no use for the Christian community. They feel that Christianity is dangerous -- so ......

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There's no such thing as a perfect political candidate -- and there are usually Many issues being considered. The Republican party is usually conservative in nature which does attract the Christian community.

 

Trump was Not my first choice -- but my 'guy' didn't stay in the running very long. Trump has been a unique candidate and President. And, really, who Wanted Clinton to get in. And, having said That -- probably someone on 'here' did. Everyone has their own opinion. It has been said that religion and politics are two topics to avoid in conversation.

 

I'll go out on a limb and say that the Muslim community is dangerous. Their motto has been 'convert or die'. Having said that -- there was a guy on another forum who said he works with Muslim men and they are some of the best workers and friends he's had. And there are those who have no use for the Christian community. They feel that Christianity is dangerous -- so ......

 

I look at things this way. A snake is just being a snake. We need not fear the thing but we do have to acknowledge it for it's fangs, as we do have to respect the Muslim community for it's drive. I'm not saying respect Islam, at all, but respect the fanaticism enough to not drop our guards for anything or anyone. Those who see these people through the eyes of political expedience is doing the same thing as smacking a hornets nest while pointing at the group they want them to attack and hope that they follow their lead.

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The one major thing about human beings is our ability to delude ourselves into believing just about anything and justifying that belief in the notion that "Well we aren't perfect, but at least we aren't as bad as the other guy."

We, as Christians have to look deeper than the skin deep, knee jerking sensationalism of American politics and see what values each party promotes and how they treat the opposition, as we are to love our enemies.as we do ourselves.

 

I don't see, as of today any one party that truly holds our values, completely, as they are both more Republican and Democrat than they will ever be Christian, but I can't see anyone who calls themselves Christian, unless their name is Christian, that would support the left in any way. Democrats are not as much of a party as they are a mass voting block of absolute hedonism, without thought or reason, that reaches out to anyone they can manipulate through the use of victimization.

 

Their strength is not of self sufficiency, bur that odf shared quote/unquote misery for the plight they claim to struggling under because of the supposed overwhelming drudgery of a capitalistic country that presumably favors the rich. They play identity politics and class warfare in order to promote envy and jealousy for what other people have and not appreciate what they do have. What the Democratic party leaves those who flock to them is an overwhelming thirst for the very thing that the democratic party can never provide, which is personal satisfaction in being who a person is and what they stand for.

 

They have nothing to give to those who desire what they promise, because if the Democrats were to give everything they promise to those they promise things to, those people would have little use for the Democratic party, since their platform doesn't go any further than "I feel your pain"

 

I know that there are some who operate their lives under the label of being Christian, probably because they listen to the echo chambers of the very people they've always hung around, but I doubt very seriously if any facets of our heavenly Father would ever be in favor of anything coming out of the Democratic party, since the only thing the Democratic party seems to celebrates is the desire to please oneself above all others. I would refer anyone struggling with this to look at what Jesus said when asked:

 

 

 

And remember his response

 

 

 

Enough said.

Well to answer the question in the OP you have to define Christian a little better since it has clearly come to mean something very different than a follower of Christ. Can you be a born again believer filled with and lead by the Holy Spirit and vote Democrat? The answer to that question is a resounding "No". That's a hard response, but if you buy into the kingdom of God, you don't kill babies or legalize same sex marriage. I could go on....

 

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The Democratic party has as their plank the right for women to have abortions. This is absolutely against Scripture. So how can a Christian be a Democrat?

 

Hi Boaz:

 

First off we can vote anyway we want! It doesn't make it right but we have that liberty as Christians in America. In Elections, generally speaking we believers need to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

We should vote, pray for the government, then live our lives for the glory of the Lord Jesus christ and follow His commands no matter who is in power!

 

Let us remember as believers that we will not bring about changed hearts by legislation, but by living christ like lives and sharing the good news of His death, burial and physical resurrection for individual's sins.

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Can you be a born again believer filled with and lead by the Holy Spirit and vote Democrat?

It would depend on which Democrat he is voting for. There are some Democrats who don't agree with the party's stand on abortion. You also need to consider who the Democrat is running against. Sometimes you must vote for an evil candiate because he is less evil than his opponent.

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Hi Boaz:

 

First off we can vote anyway we want! It doesn't make it right but we have that liberty as Christians in America. In Elections, generally speaking we believers need to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

We should vote, pray for the government, then live our lives for the glory of the Lord Jesus christ and follow His commands no matter who is in power!

 

Let us remember as believers that we will not bring about changed hearts by legislation, but by living christ like lives and sharing the good news of His death, burial and physical resurrection for individual's sins.

 

Yeah, I have heard of the churches that now say Homosexuality is okay. Believe what you wish.

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What we must think about is what is important and that is bringing people to Christ and you can't do that if you don't reach out to each and every one who will listen. That means cutting across the political lines that so many pundits have drawn in the sand. We need to stand our ground as far as our principles go and we need to make that quite clear.

 

There are people out there who see us as a detriment to their power base and actively try to shut us up so they can shut us down. I don't have to tell you on which side of the political spectrum these people reside. There are also those who will try to use our faith to try and further their own desires and that too is something that we need to be aware of as God is not for sale and nither is his Children. We need to live in this world, but not be within this world and politics is a quagmire where our perspectives can be changed radically in a short period of time. If you want to get involved in that then be vigilant on the amount of politics that inters into you.

 

No one can serve two masters and the is nothing more disheartening than seeing a capital c Christian, small r Republican become a capital R Republican small C Christian. Then you allow attitudes to arrise that can effect the way you talk to people, because those of the left become the opposition instead of more lost souls.

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Hi Boaz:

 

First off we can vote anyway we want! It doesn't make it right but we have that liberty as Christians in America. In Elections, generally speaking we believers need to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

We should vote, pray for the government, then live our lives for the glory of the Lord Jesus christ and follow His commands no matter who is in power!

 

Let us remember as believers that we will not bring about changed hearts by legislation, but by living christ like lives and sharing the good news of His death, burial and physical resurrection for individual's sins.

 

Yeah, I have heard of the churches that now say Homosexuality is okay. Believe what you wish.

What does God's Word say about 'whatever' -- churches are made up of people -- do we - as a church body -- follow God's Word or let Society sway us. Lots of churches have women preaching instead of men -- do we go along with That or follow God's guidelines for such. A pastor / elder is to be the husband of one wife. That's what Scripture says. People make all kinds of excuses For homosexuality. Bible says men are not to lay with other men the same way they lay with women. Do people go ahead and do it Anyway? Same-sex unions have also been voted in in many states -- mostly by a very narrow margin, but still voted in. So - do 'we' turn a blind-eye on same-sex dating socializing or remind our teens / young people about God's guidelines no matter what the state allows.

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Hi Boaz:

 

First off we can vote anyway we want! It doesn't make it right but we have that liberty as Christians in America. In Elections, generally speaking we believers need to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

We should vote, pray for the government, then live our lives for the glory of the Lord Jesus christ and follow His commands no matter who is in power!

 

Let us remember as believers that we will not bring about changed hearts by legislation, but by living christ like lives and sharing the good news of His death, burial and physical resurrection for individual's sins.

 

One of the main issue Democrats stand solid on is the Right of a woman to have an abortion, all Democrats stand by this. Taking the life of anyone, no matter how old their age is still MURDER! How can a person say they are a Christian and vote to murder children...they can"t.

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Hi Boaz:

 

First off we can vote anyway we want! It doesn't make it right but we have that liberty as Christians in America. In Elections, generally speaking we believers need to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

We should vote, pray for the government, then live our lives for the glory of the Lord Jesus christ and follow His commands no matter who is in power!

 

Let us remember as believers that we will not bring about changed hearts by legislation, but by living christ like lives and sharing the good news of His death, burial and physical resurrection for individual's sins.

 

One of the main issue Democrats stand solid on is the Right of a woman to have an abortion, all Democrats stand by this. Taking the life of anyone, no matter how old their age is still MURDER! How can a person say they are a Christian and vote to murder children...they can"t.

Maybe they voted that way because they didn't want Trump in. They would be willing to put up with the bad stuff if it meant keeping him out. Just sayin -- Christians have various opinions about LOTS of things.

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The Democratic Party makes it more and more difficult. Republican Party not much better.Two sides of the same coin.

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The Democratic Party makes it more and more difficult. Republican Party not much better.Two sides of the same coin.

 

Dutch Politics in general can get real filthy. Our son was a mayor for one term. We learned from him how dirty it can be. He is a Christian and did things that reflected good values. But those seeking POWER for their personal benefit and financial advancement did all they could to smear his personal life, saying things about his family which were lies, and stating his faith interfered with his job as mayor. The mayor's job paid $100.00 a month and was part time. I watched him become so frustrated, he refused to run a second time. Those who took over did so for their personal advancement..

 

But do not kid your self Democrats and Republicans are very different right down to small towns mayors office.

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One of the main issue Democrats stand solid on is the Right of a woman to have an abortion, all Democrats stand by this. Taking the life of anyone, no matter how old their age is still MURDER! How can a person say they are a Christian and vote to murder children...they can"t.

 

Hi Just me:

 

Remember Being a Christian is because one has placed their trust in Jesus and HIs death and resurrection--not because we can check off lots of boxes of right things we do! I don't know why any believer would vote for one who murders children- but do not think that they aren't christians because they have. It is wrong- but sin has been paid for. Not an excuse for us to sin, but not an excuse to condemn others who fall short either.

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If a person did not want trump in that meant the Democrats were the ones they supported. I find President Trump has some personal issues like he is hyper ADHD, very impulsive. I think he has done a very good job in standing for pro-life, increasing our Military in increasing jobs, improving the economy, getting taxes down.

 

I believe God is in total control, and president trump is in office as that is who God wanted President.

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Dutch Politics in general can get real filthy. Our son was a mayor for one term. We learned from him how dirty it can be. He is a Christian and did things that reflected good values. But those seeking POWER for their personal benefit and financial advancement did all they could to smear his personal life, saying things about his family which were lies, and stating his faith interfered with his job as mayor. The mayor's job paid $100.00 a month and was part time. I watched him become so frustrated, he refused to run a second time. Those who took over did so for their personal advancement..

 

But do not kid your self Democrats and Republicans are very different right down to small towns mayors office.

 

At a local level that is probably true but at the national level it is just a matter of degrees. I have the difference described as the difference between Stalinists and Trotskyites. Both will take you down the same road one will just do it faster.

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If a person did not want trump in that meant the Democrats were the ones they supported. I find President Trump has some personal issues like he is hyper ADHD, very impulsive. I think he has done a very good job in standing for pro-life, increasing our Military in increasing jobs, improving the economy, getting taxes down.

 

I believe God is in total control, and president trump is in office as that is who God wanted President.

 

Ultimately yes God is sovereign and in control and politics are not ultimate solutions, hence I don't despair over politics.

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