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People who can see demons

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I know some people that can see spirits. Some are unbelievers; some aren't.

 

One seeing friend, an unbeliever, believes the spirits she sees are neither good nor evil. I asked her if she saw any in my house. Eventually she found one in the back corner of our spare bedroom, and immediately I prayed out loud for God to remove anything from our home that had no place there. Immediately, my friend said, she felt that a wind came and blew the spirit away. She felt bad, though, because she felt the spirit hadn't done anything to deserve God booting it.

 

I said, "Why would God have removed it if it weren't evil?" She had no answer.

 

That night I had a quick burst of what should have been a nightmare: A frightening visage screamed in my face, "You're going to hell!"

 

I woke up laughing. Because clearly the spiritual forces of evil had no idea they were dealing with someone who is solidly confident in God's salvation.

 

I need to be continually reminded of this story, to cover my house, and all who enter it, in prayer.

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Other than Angelophanies or an appearance of Satan (e.g., Christ's temptation) in the Bible, I have never heard of someone being able to physically see a spirit. And you don't seem to be talking about angels or demons because you say "neither good nor evil", when the aforementioned are most certainly one or the other. I would be highly skeptical of your friends claims and, for that matter, would guard against playing with anything that even remotely smacks of the occult. Nothing good can come from engaging in the latter.

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Well, I will not really opine on the matter, other than to just say that those would be some interesting friends to have a conversation with. Just going in with no pre-determined beliefs or assumptions, I can think of some really interesting and thought-provoking questions to ask them. Unfortunately, I would not really expect too much from them just given these beliefs that I would have to shed, but oh well. Interesting stuff, I guess, and thanks for sharing.

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I remember when i was younger i had a strong connection with spirits, i could see and often even communicate (as best as i could at that age) with entities i didn't even know, but when i grew older i began to close myself off from it, i'm glad i did. Some people think it is some sort of gift but it really wasn't, at my age i didn't understand what some of them were but when i think back about it i'm still terrified. Even though it weren't only Nightmares and dreams like you had, most of the time i was very much awake, i still can sence spirits, i only can't directly see or communicate with them.

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I have never seen any demons to my knowledge, or even any angels, although I have heard of people who see angels, and the Bible does say that sometimes we entertain angels unaware.

My mother, who was a very committed Christian, once told me about one of the Christian Businessmen's Association meetings that she had gone to. The speakers were nuns , and I think maybe some kind of missionaries to another country, but I don't remember that specific part for sure. Anyway, when they were all haveing the dinner that came along with the monthly meetings, she said that suddenly the face of one of the nuns changed, and looked like a death's head face to her. My mother said she kind of gasped, and hoped the shock didn't show up on her face, and in an instant the nun's face had changed back to its kindly expression.

Mom said she was never quite sure what was being shown to her, whether the person was actually evil in disguise, or maybe she was dying and didn't know it. In any case, it was a totally shocking experience for my mother, and something that never had happened to her before or after that.

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I remember my pastor told me that demons don't have horns and batwings. The bible even describe Satan as someone beautiful and he uses his beauty to deceive people to sin. I think the bat winged demons image was created by early Christians to make Pagans leave their beliefs because that is what many Pagan Gods looks like.

 

Demons are spirits like angels so Angels don't have bird wings neither. Many Pagan Gods looks exactly like the modern interpretation of demons.

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I have never seen a demon or an angel. I am wondering what a demon would really look alike. Some have professed that they have seen this creature. Isn't a demon supposed to be an evil spirit? How do they know that it was a demon that they had seen? What makes them certain of what they saw. I am not seeking to discredit anyone who may have claimed to see an evil spirit but I believe that these are some pertinent questions to be asked to be more clear about the presence of demons.

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Demons and Angels are spirits. They don't really have wings, halos and horns. They are nothing like the pop culture's description. They are spirits but just like humans, they are created under God's image. They don't really have a physical body nor appearance. The bible did describe the demon as something beautiful that uses it's beauty to deceive people.

 

There is a Pagan God with Goat's head and a propaganda was used by the Catholic Church by portraying that goat headed God as the demon. The Novel Divine Comedy also triggered the beliefs demons have horns and angels have wings.

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There is no such thing as a "neutral" spirit. They either come from God (He makes His angels spirits...) or from Satan. God gives spirit filled (Holy Spirit filled) believers discernment of spirits and the power to cast them out. If you belong to Jesus and are serving Him and are filled with the Holy Spirit we have complete authority over them.

 

Out witnessing at night during the racing in Hot Springs I was talking to a man about the Lord when another man drove up and went into a store. He left his engine running and before he got out turned up his radio as loud as it would go. I saw it was the devil trying to disrupt my witness. The man I was talking to noticed this odd behavior also and I told him it was the devil.

 

If we are born again believers and have experienced the baptism of the Holy Spirit as described in the 19th chapter of Acts then we should move in the power of God to set the captives free.

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I'm new here, because I tire of talking to my friends in the real world about his, and since my mother (who guided me into Christianity in my youth) believes me on this but is rather close-minded on the subject, I figured I'd throw this at a new audience of people who don't know me.

 

Most of my life, I've been able to see and hear demons. As a child, I could also hear angels singing (it's rather beautiful) when I'd get scared... it was such a comfort, even though a tad frightening on its own when you're hearing an audible noise in the room, yet as you turn your head, there's nothing there no matter how the sound seems to be fixated in a place.

 

Anyway, as I got older, these things angered me. I'd grown used to them screaming at me daily, and often wondered if perhaps I was simply schizophrenic or something like that... then I saw one floating over my friend who had been acting in a rather damaging fashion to myself and others. I put my hand on his head and told it (well, I'll watch my language here... I'm a Christian, but I don't limit my language to things that I do not respect) to get out with a few expletives added, as these things kind of anger me. It vanished and he fell down.... but felt better after and his behavior changed for the better. I'd done this before when younger, or just stood up to the things and told them that "You know you I work for... you know you're not gonna win. Now go." (or something to that extent.... I was like 8 or so with my first recollection of that, so my memory is probably false to some degree)... but the things would run. God once insinuated to me that I'm like teflon to them... they can't come in. But I'll always hear them screaming.

 

It's not like the crap they show on TV, when you see these things, at least by my experience. It's like a feeling more than anything... raw, guttural emotions, twisted thoughts and all that congealed into a space that sadly, only a few of us (apparently... my mother and I can, but I don't know how plentiful our numbers are) can see. I got used to it. I'm 43 now. I've had 3 children, and my eldest son, who is 21, is starting to see them. I can never be sure if it's because of his mother's teachings, the autism (a trait we share), the medication he's been put on... or if somehow, the Lord wants him to do as I do, and send them away when they haunt those in our path. I've followed along wherever God has sent me over the past several years, and it seems that He always sets me in a place where something vile is tormenting a human (usually a non-believer, but that often changes once I make the things run).

 

I've discussed this with my mother, but she takes the Bible literally, all while calling it a "Living Word", something I can respect. God once told me to tell her something, and it touched her: "Becky, you've always served Me, and I am grateful... but as for the Bible... do you think that's really ALL I had to say?" She cried. It's not like a burning bush appeared before me or anything... it's just something I was told to communicate. He's since given me a vacation from fighting these monstrosities, per my request. It was causing me mental harm. However, I'm ready to ask the Lord to give me the sight back, because while I can no longer see or hear their horrid screaming, I know when they are around, and I'm guessing that my work in His good name is not done.

 

Yeah, I know. Sounds like a plot for a horrible "B" Movie or just some self aggrandizing jerk who is trying to brag. This is THE ONLY place online I've ever mentioned this, and I almost wish I wasn't... but I figure if there's anyone to ask advice from, it would be fellow believers. Granted, I'm more of the front line grunt when it comes to being a "believer", but I know what I see. I know what God wishes me to do. I can't enter a church because the chorus of joy from the people there overwhelms my senses. This is not a blessing... but others have been helped by me, so I suppose it is not a curse.

 

I'm not even sure what to ask you guys, honestly. Any advice would be wonderful and taken graciously. Anyone calling me a charlatan or a Satanist will not be responded to, but know that I'll just be chuckling at comments like that and wishing that you were correct.

 

Anyway, no matter what, thanks for listening. I truly appreciate it.

 

Thug for God, Apparently,

Drew

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Don't focus on demons and spirits of the dead that are acctualy demons. All that stuff is a distraction from Christ. Now people do get possed by demons and demons can cause problems in a Christians life, but our focus should be on Christ and being sanctified that is how we combat the demonic world. As far as exoricsing deomon, it's only fruitfull if that person turns to Christ as Lord and Saviour.

If you have non believers as friends who talk to spirits then you need new friends, darkness and light don't mix.

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Thanks for the reply. I'm actually dealing with a generational demon that has hit my ex-wife. I was able to bind it, but from what I have read and what I know (I'm not much of a reader... I just do what I know), that's the best I can do. I've told her to have faith in the Lord, but in the end, this isn't one I can knock out apparently. It has spoken through her to me on the phone, and they sound about as lovely as one would imagine. When I was staying with her for a week, it left her be. I may have to return there to finish the stupid thing off, but that can only happen if she truly believes. She says she does, but in the end, I figure that unless she accepts Christ as her savior and realizes that He and his dad are more powerful than the foolish demon that her grandmother placed upon her, there's not much else I can do. If you have any better advice, I'd love to hear it. I'm not a professional "exorcist" or anything like that... I just don't like spirits haunting people. I stop them when I can. This one has irked me, because if it harms her daughter (not my child), I'd literally walk through hell to destroy it. I'd rather have the advice from people who know more about this than I.

 

Cheers.

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Thanks for the reply. I'm actually dealing with a generational demon that has hit my ex-wife. I was able to bind it, but from what I have read and what I know (I'm not much of a reader... I just do what I know), that's the best I can do. I've told her to have faith in the Lord, but in the end, this isn't one I can knock out apparently. It has spoken through her to me on the phone, and they sound about as lovely as one would imagine. When I was staying with her for a week, it left her be. I may have to return there to finish the stupid thing off, but that can only happen if she truly believes. She says she does, but in the end, I figure that unless she accepts Christ as her savior and realizes that He and his dad are more powerful than the foolish demon that her grandmother placed upon her, there's not much else I can do. If you have any better advice, I'd love to hear it. I'm not a professional "exorcist" or anything like that... I just don't like spirits haunting people. I stop them when I can. This one has irked me, because if it harms her daughter (not my child), I'd literally walk through hell to destroy it. I'd rather have the advice from people who know more about this than I.

 

Cheers.

 

Any information you get on casting out demons needs to be from Scripture. Christ cast out demons not anyone else, whoever is trying to cast out demons in Christ name needs to have Christ as lord and saviour.

I don't know where what binding ritual your using by it came from either the Roman Catholic church or witchcraft, not biblical Christianity.

Don't trust everyone who says they've cast out demons, they might think they did but it could be that satan just wants them to be puffed up thinking that they're something special when it could them who is really the one with demons.

 

​​​ Be careful and stick close to God's word.

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Fair to say. However, try to remember, God sent his son to us as a Man. Jesus walked sinless, but was also just as human as the rest of us. That was His entire point... to show what we could be. That's why He died for our sins. I'm not going to pretend to know the exact scripture from the King James Bible that refers to "binding" of demons (my mom is better at knowing that sort of thing, and once read me several verses on the subject), but my friend, it's not some hocus pocus TV crap. We all have power over demons, so long as we follow the word. That's my understanding anyway.

 

I know I've cast out demons. I do not say this to brag... I just know it is a thing that has been done. It sometimes takes a toll. However, what I always say is that it's not me doing it... I'm just God's spotter, if you will. He's the one with power. Thankfully, our Lord is kind enough to let us help others through Him.

 

Anyway, not trying to be argumentative. I just figure as another of God's children, you'd not want to lessen yourself and believe that demons are more powerful than you. We have souls for a reason. I figure our creator knew what He was doing. :) But yes, I will stick to His word. That is wonderful advice.

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I'm going to give an example of one of the times I chased off a demon... I like having a place where I can tell others about these things! That's pretty cool! I know we all don't believe in the same things, being followers of different doctrines and whatnot (i.e. as a Presbyterian, Innerfire, you probably don't get to witness folks speaking in tongues and some of the wackiness that goes along with that), but I figure if I throw a story out here, whether you agree with it or not, it'll be food for thought. I only promise that it's not poisoned. :)

 

About 3 months ago, I was sitting here at my desk doing my job, and a dark feeling came over me. I saw a vision of a little boy in a hospital bed, and I saw a demon looming over him. I knew this boy... it was my room-mate's son. She was at work. I don't know how to describe what happened next, other than me (in my vision, anyway... not in real life) roaring at it and demanding that in the name of the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost to leave that child be. I figured I was just hallucinating or something weird like that, but I was not on any medication to cause such a thing.

 

One minute later, my phone rang. It was my room-mate. Her son was in the hospital and she'd left work to be with him, and she said he had a high grade fever to the point of it being an emergency... and it broke literally just before she called me. I had no clue that her son was in danger other than what I saw. She said "Something told me to call you... Bran is fine. And thank you." I replied "I'm glad he's OK. Thank God, not me. He did the work. Tell Bran's dad I said hi!"

 

That was an odd thing, but that's the sort of situations people like me deal with every day. It's not something that can be explained scientifically. These things do happen in this world. If there's chicanery afoot, I don't know... but I know her son is fine. In the end, I praise God, because he let me help that boy. The result in the end is what matters, way as I see it.

 

My mom is still at church, or I'd have her give me the proper verses to tell you about "binding" and whatnot. She loves to share with other Christians. I could Google it, but I thought it would be more fun to say "And here's what my Mom found!", because it would probably make her blush. Anyway, thanks for listening. :)

 

 

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I pretty much grew up in a Presbyterian church, but for a short time my aunt would take me to a charismatic/pentacostal church when I was a kid where they did laying on of hands, being slayed by the Spirit and speaking in toungs, sometimes people would laugh in the Spirit I think it's called. I've went to a mega church where they did the same for about a year. After that I was Methodist for a while, and then missionary Baptist. Eventually I visited a small PCA church and started learning much more about Calvinisim and the five points, I realized that my beliefs were that of Presbyterians and the doctrines made my beliefs more grounded and sound. I've done some reading on carismata and pentacostalism. There's plenty of pentacostals that I would call brorthers and sisters in Christ, but I think there can be some serious dangers within those movements.

 

I'm gonna start a new thread on this in a bit. Stay strong in Christ.

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Let me know when you do... if you'd like my input, I'd be more than happy to add my 2 cents. For reference, my mother is Pentecostal, my father liked Methodist, but we did go to a Presbyterian church for awhile. I think we all dance around a bit before we find the place we are best to settle. One time at a Church of God (which seems like a redundant statement), I was 12 years old and my Mom got "slain in the spirit". For anyone else reading this, that means she was on the ground, speaking in a language we didn't know and shaking. I was aghast... and when I went to check on her, some old lady slapped me in the head and said "You leave your mother be, boy! She is communing WITH THE LORD!" I replied "No, Ma'am... she is having a seizure. And if you touch me again, I'll send you to God really quickly to find out if I'm right." She fainted. I caught her as she fell... I'm not a monster. Mom ended up being fine... but I didn't understand at the time what was happening.

 

We all have our different variations on how we worship and all that. In the end of things, as long as we're all going on the same path when it comes down to it, it's a good thing. I don't speak in tongues. They tried to send me to a children's church camp where that was their goal... but I saw so many children faking it just for approval, that I just wouldn't allow that to happen to me. I felt "The Spirit", but I figured if any words were coming out of my mouth, I wanted the world to know that they were my ideas. Makes me a bad Pentecostal, I suppose, but I figure that if the good Lord made me this way, whatever decisions I make are already decided, what with Him being Omniscient and all that.

 

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. It truly is appreciated. These aren't things I get to talk to people about in general, so it's nice to have a release. I'm still gonna have my mother give me proper scripture about the "binding" deal, because while I know I'm somewhat crazy, I didn't wish you to think that the things I speak of are not of the scripture. :)

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I asked my mother for verses that spoke of "binding". I don't know if these will do the trick, but since I've gotta honor her, these are what she gave me. She did ask me to apologize to you for being so aggressive, so I am sorry. I'm an aggressive person by nature, but I mean well. My mother and I argued about trying to emulate Christ, because my opinion was that he was a shepherd... and shepherds have to be tough. They have to fight wolves to protect their flock. I brought up the time that he turned the tables in the temple because the Pharasees were doing business in his dad's house. Jesus was not a wimp. :)

 

Anyway, she's probably right. So, I'm sorry if the way I write things seems like I'm attacking. You're not my enemy. I'm just happy to have someone listen. So, here are the verses she asked me to relay to you concerning demon butt-kicking (my term, not hers).

 

 

Matthew 12:29

 

For who is powerful enough to enter the house of a strong man like Satan and plunder his goods? Only someone even stronger--someone who could tie him up and then plunder his house.

 

 

 

 

Matthew 16:19

 

I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

 

 

 

 

Matthew 10:8

 

Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.

 

 

 

 

Mark 16:15-18

 

15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

 

 

 

 

John 14:12

 

12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing,and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

 

 

Cheers!

-Drew

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Proud news, peeps. (By the way, Innerfire... I saw your message. The interface wouldn't allow me to respond. Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you... you're the person that was having this discussion with me, so please understand: the system got in my way.)

 

God let me kill that generational demon that was haunting my ex wife! He told me this after I found out that she had a hive of flies surrounding her and attacking her head.... He said to me "You know, you're the father of your son, with her... and demons don't keep paperwork. Hence, you're part of the generation." So, I kicked its butt. I asked her to call me later to confirm, but if it DOES show up again, I'll go over there and tear it asunder.

 

Anyway, this is what my mother and I call a "Praise Report". So I'm sharing it with you guys. You might not think I'm telling the truth, but I'm letting you know it anyways.

 

Cheers!

I'm very happy that the Lord lets me do this stuff.

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I haven't heard back from my ex-wife about whether the thing is still there (I tried asking her about such, but she was too tired to answer)... but I figured I'd put for reference why this particular demon annoyed me so.

 

It went after my 21 year old son and his 11 year old sister (no relation). She's a sweetheart. Apparently, this stupid thing decided that it was going to threaten my children's lives (I'm including the younger one even though I had nothing to do with her creation, because I like her), because of a curse that her grandmother placed upon her. I know many of you don't believe in that sort of thing, but it is Biblical. People like myself fight these sorts of things all the time. I guess that's what He wants us to do.

 

Anyway, this particular blasphemous beast decided that it was going to take either my son's or her daughter's life if she didn't give up hers. As you can imagine, I didn't like the choices that were offered. If anyone is going to kill my son, it'll be me... and I won't. Hence, the stupid thing already started off on the wrong foot. It's a right I reserve that no one else gets to have. :)

 

That's apparently the course of action that generational curses take (Yes, I've got scripture for it... I was surprised as well)... anyway, it's theoretically gone. I have a feeling that it's not going to show up again. I got to talk to it on the phone several times, and while I kept an inquisitive mind about the matter at hand (you kind of have to)... it had rather bad language which I matched word for word. This was NOT my ex-wife speaking... lots of vulgarity, which she's not a fan of. She explained later how her grandmother had cursed her when she was but a child. Long story short, crummy people. Brujas, as they're called in Mexican culture. I won't say what I'd call them in MY culture. "Witches" is is easiest way to explain it. People I don't like.

 

The only reason I'm adding an explanation to this, which ironically a very simple event in my world, is to hopefully educate the readers. I'm used to monsters. The Lord, thankfully, allows me to fight them through his power. It ain't about me... I'm just a conduit. This latest incident makes me love the Lord, because He let me fight another monster. Some of you don't believe in those. They do believe in you. But they can't harm you if you don't allow them to. That was my ex-wife's mistake... and that's why I'm writing this. I don't care one way or the other what any of you think of me... but if the Lord gives me something that might educate you, I'd be reticent to not share it.

 

My ex wife didn't give the Lord the power that He deserved in her mind, and that's why she couldn't bind the demon that was attacking her and threatening my kids. I tried to explain this to her, but she is a stubborn woman. I still don't know if I won the fight, but I will if it isn't done. I know He'll help me. Faith is a very powerful thing.

 

The point is.... have faith in Our Father. It's easy to not have such... the world tells you not to. We've got a pretty decent God when it comes down to it, though... appreciate his teachings. His kid had some pretty cool things to say as well. Anyway, take care, folks... I know I sound like a bleeping bad Netflix movie, but that's my world. It's a pleasure to share it with you. I'm doing it because my boss told me to.... and He's bigger than all of us. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Got to deal with a new one this evening. My room-mate (a female) was bruised from a fall she took yesterday, and she'd been working all day. I took her hand and asked God to give her my strength, and my other room-mate (a male) freaked out, because her bruises on her leg apparently lightened before his eyes. I can't claim to have witnessed this... but he saw it. My eyes were closed. Our Lord is truly powerful, and I figure we're not supposed to forget that.

 

I don't know if He wants me to keep telling you guys these stories. I probably won't any more. It was nice having a place to tell folks about the things I deal with. Thanks for being there during a time when I felt the need to tell people about the things He lets me do. Forget me. But always know that there are other people like me out there, and we're watching out for you, per God's orders. You'll rarely see us, but while we are not angels, we're fighting for you. It was a pleasure to share this with you, and thank you for listening. Time to go back to war. I think that's what He wants of me... so that's what I'm gonna do.

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I don't see any mention of the Holy Spirit here friends. Until you are baptized in the Holy Spirit you don't have the power to deal with devils.

 

Acts chapter 19 is a Good primer. First get equipped then deal with the enemy.

 

Mark 16:12, 17-18 (NKJV)

12 After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as they walked and went into the country.

17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;

18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

 

Jesus did no ministry until the Holy Spirit filled Him. Neither can we.

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He lets me fight them just fine. While I do not speak in tongues, the Holy Spirit is with me. That much I know.

 

I appreciate the references. I just got done reading Mark again. I try to prime up every once in awhile before battle. As for your last statement, good sir, I can do whatever our Lord allows me to. I trust him more than you. No offense. :)

 

Take care and be well.

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Until you are baptized in the Holy Spirit you don't have the power to deal with devils.

 

When one becomes a believer then at that time they are baptized with the Holy Spirit.

This is precisely what happened with Cornelius and the Gentiles with Him in Acts 10 (cf. Acts 19:2; Ephesians 1:13).

 

 

 

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When you are saved you are born of the spirit but not filled with the Holy Spirit. Those in acts 19 were already believers when they came to Paul. Note ;

 

 

Acts 19:2 KJVS

He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

 

They believed already, Paul separated the two distinct events in this verse with the obvious dividing word SINCE.

 

God CAN baptize you with the Holy Spirit right after being saved like those mentioned or it can take place later. It is always evidenced with the gift of tongues. Always.

 

There are many components to the gift of tongues. There are many scriptures in the old testament regarding this gift.

 

The believers in acts chapter 2 had not previously received the Holy Spirit. Two separate events. Denominational religion has long erroneously taught that;

 

1. You get all of the Holy Spirit when you are saved.

2. This is not for today.

3.it is of the devil

4. There are no gifts of the Spirit today.

5.tongues are of the devil.

 

There are so many components of the baptism of the Holy Spirit that are unknown to denominational believers. I have walked with the Lord Jesus Christ for 40 years. He saved me outside of denominational walls and thank God for all that prayed for me to be saved. After He convicted and saved me in the fall of 1977 He baptized me in the Holy Spirit a few weeks later and gave me the gift of tongues. I didn't realize what had happened until I researched the Scriptures. The old and new testament have many scriptures directly pertaining to this event and gifts thereof.

 

I was told by unbelieving church goers that this was not from God etc. Such ashame that the word of God on this is rejected and often perverted. The gifts and calling of God are without recall.

 

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