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Because terrorists can murder 31 people and injure 180 others, and we’ll still be told to our face by liberals that our cars are doing more damage.

 

 

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Last year, about 30 people were killed by terrorists in the USA.. 30,000 people are killed every year by guns in the USA. The same can be said about drunk driving.

 

I don´t really agree with Obama, but I will say this

 

1. We spend almost 100 billion a year on homeland security and the TSA. The TSA has had more than 500 arrests for stealing and inappropriate behavior. The amount of terrorists plots thwarted by a TSA agent = 0. That is 100 billion in mostly wasted money that could be used so we don´t have to poising our kids with lead.

 

2. There is no ISIS solution other than the USA fulling invading Iraq and Syria again. It is short-sighted and ignorant of history to think we can just ´carpet bomb´ them to extinction. And the best part of it is, terrorist organizations are like hydras, if you kill one person, then you now have created recruitment options from their childrens, wives and friends. Most of the ISIS members in Iraq now, are family members of people we ´carpet bombed´ in the Iraq war.

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If somebody says cars are doing more damage than terrorist they're equating two issues that are unrelated. Both issues have to be dealt with, and saying cars kill more people in response to terrorist kill people is just ignorant. It's apples and oranges they don't relate.

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Honestly, money is the big motivator in it all. There's money for war and contractually obligated money. This goes for both sides of the aisle. It really is a sad state of affairs no matter how you address it.

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Honestly, money is the big motivator in it all. There's money for war and contractually obligated money. This goes for both sides of the aisle. It really is a sad state of affairs no matter how you address it.

I sort of think that money isn't really an object to the American government. They'll pour millions/billions into the war effort every day, despite already trillions into debt.

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I agree with Beardedfellow on this one. The two topics are completely unrelated. I don't think two completely separate topics should be compared in such a way. No matter what the numbers say, it doesn't make the amount of people killed by terrorists any less appalling just because more people are killed by any other means.

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Okay, let's try this again. For some reason my post froze up and then.....nada.

 

If we use the numbers properly and not as a fixed equation as has been done, the comparative study can indeed be made into a valid point but again, not as it was presented.

 

If say, we have 1000 cars as a base number and 3 get into an accident causing fatalities. We could then say that .003% of a 1000 cars are involved in a fatal accident.

 

Now, if we have HOWEVER many terrorists: 1,10,100, 10000 it doesn't make any difference in the number because the number of terrorists involved in a fatality is nearly 98%. Whether they only kill themselves or 1 to 150 people the percentile remains the same.

 

Per Capita, there are more terrorist related fatalities than there are in ANY other methodology of death including cancer.

 

Ah, made it without the big freeze. God Bless...........Bobby

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Okay, let's try this again. For some reason my post froze up and then.....nada.

 

If we use the numbers properly and not as a fixed equation as has been done, the comparative study can indeed be made into a valid point but again, not as it was presented.

 

If say, we have 1000 cars as a base number and 3 get into an accident causing fatalities. We could then say that .003% of a 1000 cars are involved in a fatal accident.

 

Now, if we have HOWEVER many terrorists: 1,10,100, 10000 it doesn't make any difference in the number because the number of terrorists involved in a fatality is nearly 98%. Whether they only kill themselves or 1 to 150 people the percentile remains the same.

 

Per Capita, there are more terrorist related fatalities than there are in ANY other methodology of death including cancer.

 

Ah, made it without the big freeze. God Bless...........Bobby

 

Interesting. I think the liberal mindset, for example, would suggest that x amount of fatalities are caused by cars, and not drunk drivers or texting on the Iphone. The true cause of death is not by cars, but by the drivers actions which are attributed by other factors, the true death from terrorist are caused by terrorist, unless one would go so far to lay the blame on God or the devil... . which would bring to question from where terrorist ideology originates.

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Interesting. I think the liberal mindset, for example, would suggest that x amount of fatalities are caused by cars, and not drunk drivers or texting on the Iphone. The true cause of death is not by cars, but by the drivers actions which are attributed by other factors, the true death from terrorist are caused by terrorist, unless one would go so far to lay the blame on God or the devil... . which would bring to question from where terrorist ideology originates.

 

 

Yes, but that begs the question. If drunk driving and texting is killing 20,000 people per year, and terrorists killed 30 people per year... why are we not talking more about drunk driving and texting, and why are we spending 100 billion per year to stop those few terrorist attacks.

 

The answer is easy, because the private contractors of the TSA and the defense industry spends hundreds of millions on lobbiests and so politicians have to scare up support for their wasteful, pork-barrel spending. If MADD was able to spend hundreds of millions on political campaign donations, then maybe we would spend as much fighting 30,000 deaths per year as we spending fighting 30 deaths per year.

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Your point is well taken @petesede, but there is a slight flaw here. If we add all of the salaries of police, the cost of jailing drunk drivers, the amount of fines taken in for vehicular offenses, tv and radio ads for vehicle educational purposes I believe the amount would be WAY over 100 billion dollars a year.

 

Now, back to the terrorists. It only took a dozen terrorists to take down the towers on 9/11, a half dozen to kill 130 in Paris, 2 killed some more in San Bernadino, 1 killed 13 at Ft. Hood and the list just keeps getting longer.

 

While drunk drivers, cell phone users, druggies, and down right idiots have the "potential" to kill someone, the ratio of fatalities compared to that of a terrorist who kills 99% of the time is absolutely immense.

 

The problem here is that most drunk drivers are usually spotted and arrested before they do any real damage while a terrorist could be living right next door to you planning to shoot up and/or bomb your local mall and no one is the wiser until it is too late.

 

Just a note: I do not like alcohol, drugs or Cell Phones for that matter. (I do not carry around a phone and have a passion for body building) I have had friends killed by a drunk driver so I am definitely on board for any ideas other than the ones we are already spending money for.

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Now, back to the terrorists. It only took a dozen terrorists to take down the towers on 9/11, a half dozen to kill 130 in Paris, 2 killed some more in San Bernadino, 1 killed 13 at Ft. Hood and the list just keeps getting longer.

 

Exactly, it was a minority in number that murdered millions, from Nazi Germany to the Japanese. The minority extremist were responsible, despite the majority of peace loving moderate Germans or Japanese. My personal belief is that the pacifist majority likewise had a share in the responsibility. Whether the church remaining silent in the face of German adversaries or to today when Secularism has silence the voice of America's conscience - the Church. It isn't always what we do, but what we don't do. I think history suggests that the moderates (Muslims today) are meaningless when faced with the damage only a minority group inflicts on the general populace.

 

Likewise, the statistics don't reflect the ratio of casualties by just one terrorist. Another words one may show that each car accident caused two or three causalities on avg. And only one atomic bomb caused x amount of casualties. The avg number of casualties inflicted on us from just one terrorist isn't conveyed in the statistics. Terrorist are much more deadlier than your avg car accident, resulting in not only multiple fatalities but secondary injuries.

 

God bless,

William

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Well interesting choice of words, for sure.

 

There are several ways to say something and it looks like that this tweet and whole Obama saying things like that is somehow out of context. I do not think that terrorists and climate change can be really mentioned in the same page. Maybe there are several other threats going on around at the world, at the same time and we should not forget any of them but to really compare them is a little bit too much.

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Interestingly enough when Obama speaks of climate change the issue is debatable among scientists and scholars. There is definitely some sort of change going on, but it is believed that it just is a natural cycle that occurs over thousands of years. On the other hand the problem with ISIS is something that we can actually have some say in. Trying to control the elements, or trying to rid of ISIS are two different things. The former being much less of a factor that we can control.

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Yes, but that begs the question. If drunk driving and texting is killing 20,000 people per year, and terrorists killed 30 people per year... why are we not talking more about drunk driving and texting, and why are we spending 100 billion per year to stop those few terrorist attacks.

 

Could you show where those funds are actually spent? The 100 billion you speak of?

 

Secondly, I would point out that there are laws in place directed at texting and drunk driving, whereas there are no laws against being a radical Muslim, lol. It seems to me that forgotten is that there is a necessity for our country to have the resources needed as both a deterrent as well equipping us for offensive measures.

 

Third, seen the national debt lately? Seems to have skyrocketed for some reason (no pun intended).

 

Fourth...where do you get your figure of thirty people dying a year from terrorism? Your a little short of the reality, aren't you?

 

Lastly, with Obama's administration, would you agree that terrorists are more likely to target the US without fear?

 

The answer is easy, because the private contractors of the TSA and the defense industry spends hundreds of millions on lobbiests and so politicians have to scare up support for their wasteful, pork-barrel spending. If MADD was able to spend hundreds of millions on political campaign donations, then maybe we would spend as much fighting 30,000 deaths per year as we spending fighting 30 deaths per year.

 

No question that war is big business, however, supplying the US Armed Forces is not simply a matter of stopping terrorists. It's just common sense. As far as our law enforcement dealing with terrorism, would you suggest we ignore it? Will it go away if we do?

 

As far as MADD goes, the sad fact is that people are going to drink. People are going to drive. Shall we liken terrorism to this? How about falling asleep at the wheel? One difference is that most who do kill because of drunk driving are not doing so intentionally, nor are their interests in destroying America (and other countries).

 

Personally, I think we should be glad that anything is being done to stem the rise of Radical Islam (and I am not saying they are the only terrorists), and I for one will be glad when we have a President that doesn't turn the other way at the actions of terrorists.

 

Here is a list of Christians killed so far in 2016:

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[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.04.27[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pakistan[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pir Mahal[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A Christian boy is lynched for flirting with a Muslim girl.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.04.25[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Nigeria[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Enugu[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]48[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]60[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Forty-eight people are reported dead after Muslim terrorists attack their village, hacking, shooting, and burning their homes and church.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.04.06[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pakistan[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Wandala[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A Muslim gang slits the throat of a disabled Christian for trying to defend members of his community.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.03.27[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pakistan[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Lahore[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]78[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]362[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A massive suicide blast targeting Christian families celebrating Easter leaves over seventy dead, half of whom were children.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.03.22[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Bangladesh[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Kurigram[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A Christian convert is stabbed to death by Religion of Peace proponents.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.03.21[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Egypt[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Cairo[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]4[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Four Bible translators for Wycliffe are brutally slain in their office at an undisclosed location in the Middle East.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.03.13[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Ivory Coast[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Bassam[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]18[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]17[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]al-Qaeda gunmen assault a hotel and murder anyone refusing to praise Allah with them. The eighteen killed include a 5-year-old Christian who was cut down while praying.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.03.04[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Yemen[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Aden[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]16[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Militant Muslims storm a Catholic retirement home and murder sixteen, including four nuns and the elderly residents.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.02.27[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pakistan[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Qayum[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A Muslim shouts a religious slur and fires into a Christian home, killing a 17-year-old boy.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.02.24[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Nigeria[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Agatu[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]300[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Radical Islamic mercenaries sweep through a series of Christian villages and slaughter over three hundred, including pregnant women and children.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.02.21[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Bangladesh[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Deviganj[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A Hindu priest is hacked to death and beheaded by Muslim extremists outside his temple.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.02.14[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Nigeria[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Abbi[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]19[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Fulani terrorists attack a Christian community and hack a brother and sister to death.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.02.11[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]USA[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Columbus, OH[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]4[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Four people at a Christian-owned restaurant with an Israeli flag are slashed by a Muslim wielding a machete yelling 'Allah Akbar'…[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.31[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Kenya[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Kaisari[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]4[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Militant Muslims raid a Christian village and kill four innocents, one of whom is beheaded and the other burned inside his home.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.29[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Nigeria[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Adamawa[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]10[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]28[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A young suicide bomber detonates at a busy market near a church, taking out ten innocents.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.27[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Nigeria[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Chibok[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]16[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]32[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Suicide bombers send shrapnel through sixteen innocents at a vegetable market in a Christian town.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.27[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Uganda[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Numuseru[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A Christian convert is murdered after being threatened by an imam.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.24[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Syria[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Qamishli[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]3[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]10[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Three Christians are killed in a targeted bomb attack on their restaurant.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.13[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pakistan[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Lahore[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A 17-year-old girl is killed after telling a group of Muslim men that she would not have sex with them because she is a devout Christian.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.07[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Bangladesh[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Jhenaidah[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A convert to Christianity is 'eliminated' by devout Muslims for leaving Islam.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]2016.01.05[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Pakistan[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]Bahawalnagar[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]1[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]0[/TD]

[TD=class: attacks-cell]A 7-year-old Christian boy is kidnapped, raped and killed by 'influential' Muslims.[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

 

 

And we are not even halfway through the year.

 

Should we stand by while this takes place? You do realize that the intent of Islam is to dominate the world, right?

 

 

God bless.

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We're laughing at the blatant obvious nature Obama's view of the world. He's timing is awful and seems like the world was giving him an answer of how wrong his statement was. The core of comedy is tragedy. We laugh at suffering because it helps us place it in a different mental place that separates us from the problem.

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