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    The Bible tells us in Matthew, we should seek the kingdom of God and everything else shall be ours. It also reminds us that everything has been provided for us and we should never worry about tomorrow. A book by Kenneth Haggins states that if we need anything on this world we should claim and thank God that we have it even before we see it. This is according to Mark 11:23-24. As we pray every day, lets remember that even healing has been provided for us, we need to receive and believe we have all that we've prayed for. Let's seek to grow our faith by reading and meditating on God's word every day.

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    In my experience I find this not to be true for many reasons that do not have any involvement with religion. One reason is because if you want finances and other earthly things you might not want to pray for it but rather work for them instead so you could have a higher chance of getting what you want. Another reason is because things are given by action and reaction. An example of this would be the action as you working hard would then lead to money, a reaction is because of this money that you gained form working hard you are able to buy something you want. These are just some examples as to why the statement is not true and I do not mean to offend your faith I am just explaining in another way.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ptahm22 View Post
      A book by Kenneth Haggins states that if we need anything on this world we should claim and thank God that we have it even before we see it.
      I suggest you ditch anything by Kenneth Hagin or anything and anyone associated with the Word of Faith Movement:

      Word of Faith teaching is decidedly unbiblical. It is not a denomination and does not have a formal organization or hierarchy. Instead, it is a movement that is heavily influenced by a number of high-profile pastors and teachers such as Kenneth Hagin, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Paul and Jan Crouch, and Fred Price.

      The Word of Faith movement grew out of the Pentecostal movement in the late 20th century. Its founder was E. W. Kenyon, who studied the metaphysical New Thought teachings of Phineas Quimby. Mind science (where "name it and claim it" originated) was combined with Pentecostalism, resulting in a peculiar mix of orthodox Christianity and mysticism. Kenneth Hagin, in turn, studied under E. W. Kenyon and made the Word of Faith movement what it is today. Although individual teachings range from completely heretical to completely ridiculous, what follows is the basic theology most Word of Faith teachers align themselves with.

      At the heart of the Word of Faith movement is the belief in the "force of faith." It is believed words can be used to manipulate the faith-force, and thus actually create what they believe Scripture promises (health and wealth). Laws supposedly governing the faith-force are said to operate independently of God's sovereign will and that God Himself is subject to these laws. This is nothing short of idolatry, turning our faith—and by extension ourselves—into god.

      From here, its theology just strays further and further from Scripture: it claims that God created human beings in His literal, physical image as little gods. Before the fall, humans had the potential to call things into existence by using the faith-force. After the fall, humans took on Satan's nature and lost the ability to call things into existence. In order to correct this situation, Jesus Christ gave up His divinity and became a man, died spiritually, took Satan's nature upon Himself, went to hell, was born again, and rose from the dead with God's nature. After this, Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to replicate the Incarnation in believers so they could become little gods as God had originally intended.

      Following the natural progression of these teachings, as little gods we again have the ability to manipulate the faith-force and become prosperous in all areas of life. Illness, sin, and failure are the result of a lack of faith, and are remedied by confession—claiming God's promises for oneself into existence. Simply put, the Word of Faith movement exalts man to god-status and reduces God to man-status. Needless to say, this is a false representation of what Christianity is all about. Obviously, Word of Faith teaching does not take into account what is found in Scripture. Personal revelation, not Scripture, is highly relied upon in order to come up with such absurd beliefs, which is just one more proof of its heretical nature.

      Countering Word of Faith teaching is a simple matter of reading the Bible. God alone is the Sovereign Creator of the Universe (Genesis 1:3; 1 Timothy 6:15) and does not need faith—He is the object of faith (Mark 11:22; Hebrews 11:3). God is spirit and does not have a physical body (John 4:24). Man was created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26, 27; 9:6), but this does not make him a little god or divine. Only God has a divine nature (Galatians 4:8; Isaiah 1:6-11, 43:10, 44:6; Ezekiel 28:2; Psalm 8:6-8). Christ is Eternal, the Only Begotten Son, and the only incarnation of God (John 1:1, 2, 14, 15, 18; 3:16; 1 John 4:1). In Him dwelt the fullness of the Godhead bodily (Colossians 2:9). By becoming a man, Jesus gave up the glory of heaven but not His divinity (Philippians 2:6-7), though He did choose to withhold His power while walking the earth as man.

      The Word of Faith movement is deceiving countless people, causing them to grasp after a way of life and faith that is not biblical. At its core is the same lie Satan has been telling since the Garden: “You shall be as God” (Genesis 3:5). Sadly, those who buy into the Word of Faith movement are still listening to him. Our hope is in the Lord, not in our own words, not even in our own faith (Psalm 33:20-22). Our faith comes from God in the first place (Ephesians 2:8; Hebrews 12:2) and is not something we create for ourselves. So, be wary of the Word of Faith movement and any church that aligns itself with Word of Faith teachings.
      God bless,
      William

      Source: Is the Word of Faith movement biblical?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by derf View Post
        In my experience I find this not to be true for many reasons that do not have any involvement with religion. One reason is because if you want finances and other earthly things you might not want to pray for it but rather work for them instead so you could have a higher chance of getting what you want. Another reason is because things are given by action and reaction. An example of this would be the action as you working hard would then lead to money, a reaction is because of this money that you gained form working hard you are able to buy something you want. These are just some examples as to why the statement is not true and I do not mean to offend your faith I am just explaining in another way.
        What ptham22 shared has nothing to do with "biblical Christianity". The Word of Faith movement attempts to lead people by money to money, another words God is treated as some lottery ticket and He is used as a means to an end $$$.

        God bless,
        William
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        • #5
          Well this is something that I know some people feel a little off about when it comes to their prayers. It is just another part of life though, and I know that I have needed some help as have most others.
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          • #6
            Wow William, thanks for posting the above from Got Questions! I knew Word Of Faith is fake, but I didn't know how blasphemous the origins of that were! Wow... just wow!!
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            • #7
              How best can I pray to receive God's mercy.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sando View Post
                How best can I pray to receive God's mercy.
                By praying exactly that. Open your heart to the Lord and tell Him what you need, want, desire. My husband and I have been depending on God's provision for over 2 years now. We have been in a situation that is very accurately described as "Just enough light to see your way". It's not easy, but so far we are OK.
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                • #9
                  Hi guys, I ask this question innocently therefore don't judge me and please don't shut me off. I mentioned Kenneth Hagins in one of my posts in this forum and most people said alot of negative things about him. I'm not saying that they were wrong and am not taking any sides but at a broader view, what are your opinions on Kenneth Hagin's teachings ? I've read some of his books and am still reading some of them. Let's be objective and give our opinions based on facts.
                  It's open for discussion.
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                  • #10
                    "Seek and you will find, Knock and the door shall be opened, Ask and you will receive." This is true. When you ask God, you will definitely receive, be it earthly goods or mercy. But you have to work for it too. My mother always used to pray for a house, a car etc. Now she has everything. God answered her prayer. She did her work honestly, worked hard and prayed hard too and she received her blessings. So keep on praying and work towards your goal also.
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