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    John Lennon's Peace Ads

    Lennon bought out advertising space back in the 1960s to promote peace. Was it a waste of time? If those same ads were posted now, then would they make a difference? What exactly do you think is the source of war?

    John Lennon: The Last Great Anti-War Activist | HuffPost

    #2
    Originally posted by Jason76 View Post
    What exactly do you think is the source of war?
    What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you?
    (James 4:1 ESV)
    This is referring to personal conflicts but wars between nations arise from the same source. We will have wars until Jesus Christ returns and establishes his rule over the whole world.
    Clyde Herrin's Blog
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      I do not think their is a single cause of war,but I think John Lennon would have a strong voice in today's society,but Its interesting that he became the number one enemy in the eyes of the government back then,with the Nixon administration. I think Lennon would be active today as far as peace goes,but he would have to go about it in a different way? They don't have the draft today,so thats another factor,that people don't protest as much?
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        #4
        Originally posted by Jason76 View Post
        Lennon bought out advertising space back in the 1960s to promote peace. Was it a waste of time? If those same ads were posted now, then would they make a difference?

        What exactly do you think is the source of war?
        Greed, selfishness and pride contribute, but I think the proximate cause is that man, in his natural state, is at war with God.



        Simul Justus et Peccator ~Martin Luther

        "We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone" ~John Calvin

        "Instead of a river, God often gives us a brook, which may be running today and dried up tomorrow. Why? To teach us not to rest in our blessings, but in the Blesser Himself." ~A. W. Pink

        "The secret is Christ in me, not me in a different set of circumstances" ~Elisabeth Elliot

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          #5
          Originally posted by FolkArtist View Post
          They don't have the draft today,so thats another factor,that people don't protest as much?
          I think that's a fair point, usually we become more outspoken and protesting when a problem emerges too close to us. When we're unaffected it's easy to say "Someone else will handle it", and go back to our life, even if unbeknownst to us we're part of the problem (e.g. by not voting, etc).

          But ultimately, as David Lee and theophilus mentioned above, it's us (people in general) that need to seek peace individually before we can hope for universal peace. In that regard Lennon did promote ideas in the spirit of inner peace, however I think he'd be overshadowed by the popular culture either way. A billboard does very little to inspire these days and meaningful music gets buried beneath the marketing of colossal music industries. Social media and YouTube would have been the ideal venue for his peace campaign, but would he have been willing to put himself out there as a blogger or a vlogger or a social media persona?
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            Last edited by birdfriend; 04-28-2017, 07:58 AM.
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              #7
              Originally posted by birdfriend View Post
              Many immediate causes. But I think basically war is caused by the state of our humaness or human nature and struggle to survive using age old means: power, hunger, greed, selfishness, weapons, desire to conquer and expand. Often, sadly, wars are fought in the name of religion as well. That is how the Crusades began and ended with a lot of things in between with both sides believing God was on their side. God, however, has never been on the side of war even so -called "Holy Wars" like the Crusades. Ultimately war, itself, goes back to Lucifer's fall from heaven and grace.
              War, according to the Bible, is not caused by God but is rather the result of sin in the world (Genesis 4:5-8, Matthew 15:19, Mark 7:21-23, Romans 3:10-18). And the Bible teaches that we have the right to self defense , Exodus 22:2: "If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no blood guiltiness on his account." The Bible also tells us to protect the innocent, Deut. 19:10, "So innocent blood will not be shed in the midst of your land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, and blood guiltiness be on you." Also, see "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin," (Deut. 24:16). If we were to apply these principles to war, I would conclude that war is justifiable when it is in self defense and/or when it is to protect the innocent.

              Augustine described what constituted a just war but excluded the practice of battle for the purpose of religious conversion or to destroy heretical religious ideas. The Crusades for example, it did not occur until after a few hundred years of passivity. Christians were murdered, taken into slavery, their land seized, and those that survived were made second class citizens. Therefore, the Christian wars were not of aggression and conquest but of recovering what was rightfully theirs. While there were, no doubt, excesses among some of the peoples in the armies which would clearly violate Christian teaching.

              Exactly what constitutes a Just War?

              1. Last Resort A just war can only be waged after all peaceful options are considered. The use of force can only be used as a last resort.
              2. Legitimate Authority A just war is waged by a legitimate authority. A war cannot be waged by individuals or groups that do not constitute the legitimate government.
              3. Just Cause A just war needs to be in response to a wrong suffered. Self-defense against an attack always constitutes a just war; however, the war needs to be fought with the objective to correct the inflicted wound.
              4. Probability of Success In order for a war to be just, there must be a rational possibility of success. A nation cannot enter into a war with a hopeless cause.
              5. Right Intention The pirmary objective of a just war is to re-establish peace. In particular, the peace after the war should excede the peace that would have succeeded without the use of force. The aim of the use of force must be justice.
              6. Proportionality The violence in a just war must be proportional to the casualties suffered. The nations involved in the war must avoid disproportionate military action and only use the amount of force absolutely necessary.
              7. Civilian Casualties The use of force must distinguish between the militia and civilians. Innocent citizens must never be the target of war; soldiers should always avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are only justified when they are unaviodable victims of a military attack on a strategic target.

              The key thing to remember is that the just war theory does not try to justify war, rather it tries to bring war under the control of justice so that, when its consistently practiced by all parties in a dispute, it would eliminate war altogether.

              Also note what American Forefathers had written:
              • Ben Franklin wrote of his experience: “Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book (the Qur’an) forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it.”John Adams, in his report to Jay, wrote of the Muslim prophet Muhammad, and called him a “military fanatic” who “denies that laws were made for him; he arrogates everything to himself by force of arms.”
              • By the time Jefferson became president the Barbary coast was extorting 25% of US GDP and attacks were still occurring. Jefferson wasted no time in signing a war powers request which launched the US’s entire naval fleet to wage war on the Barbary pirates. Jefferson saw the fleet off, ordering the US sailors to chase the pirates all the way to Tripoli, giving rise to the famed verse from the US Marines’ anthem.

              God bless,
              William
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                #8
                Last edited by birdfriend; 04-28-2017, 07:57 AM.
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