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    This society is full of double-standards. A recent example is the Oscar's #OscarsSoWhite. If Oscar nominations were given out randomly to the California population, only 1 in 15 would go to blacks. Yet, everyone agrees with that the Oscars are "too white" (i.e. not enough blacks). The black Oscar host was making jokes at the Oscars at the Oscar's expense. The Oscar members were busy apologizing, promising they'll change things. More importantly, I don't know of any black actor who was robbed of a nomination. Then, consider the Supreme Court.

    #SupremeCourtSoJewish. If Supreme Court seats were given out randomly to the US population, half the Supreme Court would be Protestant. But, there's not a single Protestant on the Court, and hasn't been for a long time. Currently, 3 of the Justice are Jewish. And, another one, with a heavily Jewish staff, always votes with the Jews, so let's say there are four Jews on the Supreme Court. Obama has just nominated another Jew, which would make five. Five is the number to decide verdicts. Five Jews would give Jews absolute domination of what has become the most powerful branch of government, overriding the will of the voters, the Congress, the states, and the President. What's more, those Liberal Jews aren't qualified because they don't uphold the Constitution -- they are hostile to the Constitution, our Christian faith, and our liberties.

    Not only is #SupremeCourtSoJewish not trending, but anyone who sees that tag could condemn the tag, not the lack of diversity on the Supreme Court.

    That cartoon cartoon avoids the whole truth. Muslims aren't sticking Bibles in toilets and calling it art. In their way, Muslims have respect for the Bible. In their own way, they have a lot of respect for "Jesus Christ." No Muslims in the court system is upholding a double standard of art/speech vs. hate crime concerning mockery of Islam vs. Christianity. Muslims in America don't make movies and TV shows that mock Christianity. No Muslim judges or legislators in America are making laws punishing Christians for practicing Christian values and speech.

    That double standard in the cartoon does exist, but it's not Muslims responsible for it.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
      No Muslim judges or legislators in America are making laws punishing Christians for practicing Christian values and speech. That double standard in the cartoon does exist, but it's not Muslims responsible for it.
      I agree but I was not thinking of Muslims. I do not think that is the point of the cartoon. It is about our culture. When someone puts a Koran in the toilet or burns one it is consider hate speech. The outcry is enormous. I find such an act tasteless and wrongheaded. But when the same type of thing is done to an image of Christ, or the cross, or the Bible there is no outcry except from believers.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Origen View Post
        But when the same type of thing is done to an image of Christ, or the cross, or the Bible there is no outcry except from believers.
        Except from Believers? I think you give "Believers" too much credit.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
          Except from Believers? I think you give "Believers" too much credit.
          Maybe but really don't see any secular entities calling it a hate crime when the same time of thing is done to Christian symbols.
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          • #6
            The double standard exists because Christians hardly protest. And, they're more likely to contribute to the problem than object to the problem. E.g on the topic of Israel discriminating against Christians, multiple posters in this forum have defended Israel's double standard. On a post about a public bus company discriminating against advertising a Christian service to help pregnant women, a Christian poster here defended that discrimination. The reason for that cartoon isn't to express objection to double standards against Christians, but to object to the lack of tolerance for Islam bashing. To wit, if someone can put a crucifix in a jar of urine and call it art, why can't we be more insulting of Islam?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
              The double standard exists because Christians hardly protest.
              Agreed.

              Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
              The reason for that cartoon isn't to express objection to double standards against Christians, but to object to the lack of tolerance for Islam bashing. To wit, if someone can put a crucifix in a jar of urine and call it art, why can't we be more insulting of Islam?
              I do not see this cartoon in that context at all, but maybe that is the point.
              Last edited by Origen; 03-22-2016, 07:03 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                E.g on the topic of Israel discriminating against Christians, multiple posters in this forum have defended Israel's double standard.
                None of us have defended Israel's double standard. We have defended Israel's right to exist and the necessity of the United States helping it. All countries are made up of fallible and sinful humans so we can't expect any of them, including Israel, to be perfect.

                Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                On a post about a public bus company discriminating against advertising a Christian service to help pregnant women, a Christian poster here defended that discrimination.
                If you are referring to the post I made on that subject, I was not defending discrimination because there was no evidence the bus company was discriminating. Did they allow pro abortion ads? No one ever answered that question and unless they did their refusal to run an antiabortion ad isn't proof of discrimination.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by theophilus View Post
                  None of us have defended Israel's double standard. We have defended Israel's right to exist and the necessity of the United States helping it. All countries are made up of fallible and sinful humans so we can't expect any of them, including Israel, to be perfect.
                  Regarding Nazi Germany "all countries are fallable... you can't expect them to be perfect." Right? You're still defending discrimination against Christians. Israel hates Christians, discriminates against Christians in practically everything, and treats Christian speech worse than pornography -- in spite of western Christians keeping Israel in existence. Another poster here in ubber-denial-of-reality, wakes up and lies to himself every day, denies Israel discriminates against Christians at all except in immigration and that they're reconsidering that. And, Liberal Jews on our Supreme Court, which are on the verge of being a majority, want to do for Christians in America what Israel does for Christians in Israel -- and no Christian in leadership is about to raise the issue of no Protestants or Evangelicals on the Supreme Court, because they'd get no support from the Christian community.

                  This is why the double standard in that OP cartoon exists, Christians make it a practice of ignoring and denying discrimination against them, except when Muslims are involved, and then it's really about "why can't we insult Muslims more?

                  Originally posted by theophilus View Post
                  If you are referring to the post I made on that subject, I was not defending discrimination because there was no evidence the bus company was discriminating. Did they allow pro abortion ads?
                  That's utterly naive. That government bus service never has and never would turn down a Planned Parenthood advertisement. And, if asked to explain, they'd just say, "Planned Parenthood doesn't just do abortions." Even if in fantasy land the bus service wouldn't allow PP ads, when both sides are banned, the truth still loses. (And, the Republican-lead congress still sends our tax dollars to PP; and requires insurance companies, even private Catholic insurance companies, to pay for abortions.)

                  In California, there's now a law that any organization, including Christian pro-life groups, serving pregnant women must provide abortion referrals (some Christians are fighting in the courts). Your brothers and sisters in Christ in California thank you for numbering yourself among their persecutors, for you have already defended, and repeated your defense of the government punishing groups that don't provide abortion referrals.

                  Even if there were a big-budget movie that sent the hero into a Christian church to slaughter all the Christians, for laughs, many Christians would hardly have an objection.

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                  Kingsman: The Secret Service. "The most unsettling scene takes place inside some form of Baptist church in rural southern America (a hateful, pro-life, racist church that seems to something of a stand-in for Westboro Baptist). Played for laughs" -- Review at Christian Answers dot Net

                  See, it's okay to have the hero of the movie mass murder Christians for laughs, if you first present the Christians as bigots. Maybe not okay, but no worse than "unsettling", and maybe it's unsettling bloody violence itself, or maybe a woman in the congregation showed some cleavage (that last one really is a common objection in Christian movie reviews), not because Christians are being killed for laughs. Given where many Christian stands, I wonder if the Devil ever feels unnecessary. No comments about "Hollywood's standard issue antichristian bigotry", no use the word "christophobia".

                  No movie would dare have blacks, Jews, or homosexuals killed for laughs. And, if they did, there would be a true outcry. I'm reminded again of what Jesus said, narrow is the way that leads to life and few will find it.




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                  • #10
                    I am Muslim. Islam has nothing to do with terrorism. Islam is a religion of peace. Isis is a terrorist organization. It has nothing to do with Islam. He does not represent Islam. Adam and Eve, our mother and our father. It heralds of the Gospel of Barnabas the last prophet. Please search my friend.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Turk View Post
                      It heralds of the Gospel of Barnabas the last prophet. Please search my friend.
                      The so-called Gospel of Barnabas is nothing more than a fake.
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                      • #12
                        your priests conceal the truth. Think carefully investigate the religion of Islam
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Turk View Post
                          your priests conceal the truth. Think carefully investigate the religion of Islam
                          First, I don't have a priest. Second, to suggest without evidence others are lying is itself dishonest. Third, I follow academic research, evidence, and arguments based on facts. Fourth, there is zero evidence that it is anything but a fake.
                          Last edited by Origen; 03-22-2016, 04:55 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by william
                            from your perspective origen, with respect to the op. This is what we can expect in the upcoming days from the liberal press. He nails it!

                            Perfect!
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                            • #15
                              Did he really say that there is a wave of conversions to Islam after each terrorist attack? Sounds so untrue but if lies are more true than the Truth, it has to be so. One person said that the core for conversions is that you do have a permission to hate when and if being a muslim. That's hard.
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