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  • The Hypocrisy of US Foreign Policy Regarding Saudi Arabia

    Warning: The language in this video is no more uplifting than the evil of US foreign policy:


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    Inside Saudi Arabia: Butchery, Slavery & History of Revolt

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      Originally posted by Zog Has-fallen View Post
      Warning: The language in this video is no more uplifting than the evil of US foreign policy:
      Thank you for the warning. My foreign policy is to leave Saudi Arabia, and everyone else, alone. Saudi Arabia has outlawed many things that are legal in the US. Saudi Arabia might be guilty of tyranny, but the American left is guilty of greater tyranny. Compelling people to do things is a greater tyranny than prohibiting people from doing things. If it's against the law to commit sodomy or sell marijuana, don't do it, and you can still sleep fine at night. But, a pharmacist forced to provide abortion drugs won't sleep so well if he's a moral man.
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        So you approve of beheading apostates and believe that fertilized eggs are of greater value than the lives of those who convert to Jesus Christ?
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          When was the last time Saudi Arabia beheaded someone for conversion to Christianity? Decades?

          Zog, your defense of American Liberals isn't that they're less tyrannical than the Saudis, only that they don't use the Death Penalty. But, Liberals oppose the Death Penalty because they want to protect criminals who terrorize Americans. When Liberals get full control, they execute people by the millions, as we've seen in Communist countries.

          In Saudi Arabia, there is nothing compelling a convert to Christianity to reveal his conversion to the public and the government. But, the tyranny Liberals impose on Americans, the compulsion to act against their faith, is not something Christians can hide.

          Zog, why stop at a fertilized egg? Why do some people think human animals are of greater value than the Liberals' desire for a socialist utopia?
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            Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
            When was the last time Saudi Arabia beheaded someone for conversion to Christianity?
            I've heard that beheading for apostasy is a frequent occurrence. Obviously that doesn’t trouble you because your attitude is "just don’t apostatize." And fertilized eggs don’t have heads, right?


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              Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
              Zog, your defense of American Liberals isn't that they're less tyrannical than the Saudis, only that they don't use the Death Penalty.
              Cornelius, God wants you to break free of your programming. I'm the only American liberal that I defend.

              Actually, my definition of a Liberal is someone that tends to not be tyrannical. And I believe that your indifference to the tyranny in Saudi Arabia qualifies you as a participant in their tyranny. Thus, you are correct in your estimation that you and the Saudis are not liberal.
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                Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                In Saudi Arabia, there is nothing compelling a convert to Christianity to reveal his conversion to the public and the government.
                Which Christian Church has sheltered you so well from the teachings of Scripture?

                Romans 10:9
                If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

                Revelation 12:11
                They triumphed over him [Satan] by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.


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                  Originally posted by Zog Has-fallen View Post
                  I'm the only American liberal that I defend.
                  Hey Zog, my posts aren't about you. The only difference between American Liberalism and Mao Zedong's Communist power, which ground millions of Chinese to the grave through persecution, is the degree of power they posses. When do "Liberals" ever defend anything against their values for the sake of the freedom and rights of others?

                  A Conservative says, "I disagree with what you're saying, but I'll fight to the death to defend your right to say it."

                  A Liberal says, "I disagree with what you're saying so I'll do as much as I can to stop you, even if it means killing you." Except, Liberals aren't honest so they're not going to confess their absolute contempt for the freedom and rights of others. Instead, they claim their oppression is to protect the rights of others and they redefine freedom to mean freedom from your speech (even when they're on your property). Instead, like Mao, they'll try to silence you, even with force, like Mao, by saying your words are "hate speech", "intimidate", or something else like "violate Separation of Church and state"
                  Last edited by Cornelius; 01-09-2016, 08:28 PM.
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                    Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                    When do "Liberals" ever defend anything against their values for the sake of the freedom and rights of others?
                    That's a silly question. By definition, a Liberal is on the side of freedom and individual rights.

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                      Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                      A Conservative says, "I disagree with what you're saying, but I'll fight to the death to defend your right to say it."
                      Then Noam Chomsky is a Conservative based on your definition. Chomsky is well-known for defending a French academic that denied the holocaust and also says that to deny the holocaust is to deny our humanity. I don’t see you defending me however.

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                        Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                        Saudi Arabia might be guilty of tyranny,
                        Spoken like a true tyrant. Why don't you know? I'll tell you. You can't face looking into a mirror.
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                          Originally posted by Cornelius View Post
                          The American left is guilty of greater tyranny. Compelling people to do things is a greater tyranny than prohibiting people from doing things. If it's against the law to commit sodomy or sell marijuana, don't do it, and you can still sleep fine at night. But, a pharmacist forced to provide abortion drugs won't sleep so well if he's a moral man.
                          You are terribly confused. Laws are known to change. It was once legal to grow marijuana in the United States. Then it became illegal in all 50 states. Now growing marijuana is legal in several states. Compelling marijuana farmers to cease growing medicinal marijuana to be used as medicine is just as tyrannical as requiring Christian pharmacists to get another job.

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                            Trump: We May Have To Fight A War With Iran For Saudi Arabia

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                              Originally posted by Zog Has-fallen View Post
                              Chomsky is well-known for defending a French academic that denied the holocaust and also says that to deny the holocaust is to deny our humanity.
                              Maybe it's ironic, but Chomsky describes himself as an anarchist, not a liberal. His tolerance of Holocaust Denial does not represent Liberalism. The Liberal position on Holocaust Denial is that such people should be marginalized in society, fined with any excuse, and maybe locked up if necessary to silence them.

                              Originally posted by Zog Has-fallen View Post
                              It was once legal to grow marijuana in the United States. Then it became illegal in all 50 states. Now growing marijuana is legal in several states. Compelling marijuana farmers to cease growing medicinal marijuana to be used as medicine is just as tyrannical as requiring Christian pharmacists to get another job.
                              It doesn't violate any farmer's deeply held religious or philosophical beliefs to not grow medical marijuana. And, a farmer can also grow just about anything else he wants and stay in the business of farming.

                              It does violate deeply held religious and philosophical beliefs of some pharmacists to compel them to play a key role in ending a human life. And, when it's up to liberals, the Pharmacist either has to bend under tyranny or give up his career and devalue his Pharmacy PhD.

                              You know Zog, it is really disgusting to equate a ban on growing marijuana with forcing people to take part in what they believe to be murder else give up their careers. And, with arguments like that, you'll be able to defend all tyranny. Also, for the record, I don't agree with banning farmers from growing medical marijuana. Although, I am skeptical of the medical value of marijuana (vs. drug alternatives).
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