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  • If Trump DID Drop Out, Here’s the Consitutional Way the RNC Could Replace Him

    Some Republicans hoping to remove Donald Trump from the ballot are worried that the inability to remove his name from ballots, will prevent the Republican Party from replacing him as their candidate.

    It turns out there's an easy, Constitutional solution.

    All that RNC Chairman Reince Priebus would actually need in order to replace Trump is a pen and a phone. It's true.

    If Reince Priebus put out a press release and called up all of Donald Trump's electors, explaining that "Mr. Trump recognizes the importance of keeping the Supreme Court out of Crooked Hillary's hands, and is stepping aside to allow a new Republican ticket of Governor Mike Pence and Doctor Ben Carson to Make America Great Again," then those electors could choose to vote for that ticket!

    This is a tested way of replacing a candidate. In 1872 when Horace Greeley died after election day, Democrats who were set to vote for Greeley in the Electoral College voted for other candidates. Greeley lost the election, so their votes were scattered in a meaningless show of protest, but the Constitutional principle stood. Donald Trump would be the second Presidential candidate to be on the ballot but get replaced before the Electoral College voted, and the first to do so without dying.

    Some would say that "faithless elector" laws might prevent this. These state laws purport to void Electoral College votes that deviate from the ballot, or purport to impose penalties on electors who do so. However these laws have never been enforced, and it's not clear that they would stand up to a challenge by an elector who chose not to vote for Donald Trump.

    It's not clear the election outcome would be flipped in that case anyway. Hypothetically, if a Democrat-run state voided a slate of Republican electors, preventing the Republican from getting an Electoral College majority, then those votes still would not go to Hillary Clinton. They just would not vote, and the result would be a hung election.

    In this event, it's overwhelmingly likely that the House of Representatives would elect the Republican nominee anyway, as it seems impossible for a Republican to win the Presidential election, while swinging an Electoral College majority of House delegations to the Democrats.

    So Republicans need not fear the logistics of replacing Donald Trump. They just have to do it.

    Source: If Trump DID Drop Out, Here's the Consitutional Way the RNC Could Replace Him

  • #2
    Never going to happen.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Origen View Post
      Never going to happen.
      Where is your faith? With God all things are possible.
      Clyde Herrin's Blog
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      • #4
        Originally posted by theophilus View Post
        Where is your faith? With God all things are possible.
        I simply accept what happens because my faith is in God. I leave it to God to do what is best. The fact is people have to live with the bad choices they make. They chose Trump, very bad choice. Now many people, who should have known better in the first place, want God to step in and fix it. My advice to them "seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness."
        Last edited by Origen; 10-10-2016, 12:02 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Origen View Post
          I simply accept what happens because my faith is in God. I leave to God to do what is best. The fact is people have to live with the bad choices they make. They chose Trump, very bad choice. Now many people, who should have known better in the first place, want God to step in and fix it. My advice to them "seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness."
          Awesome response!

          God bless,
          William
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          • #6
            So what do those of us who don't want to "hang a chad" for either H or the Donald do?? There are two viable candidates, the lessor of two evils being Trump IMHO because we KNOW that Hillary will:
            1) Continue to support/encourage the slaughter of the unborn
            2) Fix the Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare) by taking us to Universal/Single-Payer Healthcare instead (which will turn us from a Capitalist into a Socialist nation)
            3) Appoint non-Constitutionalists to SCOTUS to overrule the Congress when the will of the people needs to be thwarted, and always have a super-liberal majority deciding all other issues
            4) Open our borders
            5) the list goes on.................................
            We're not sure what Trump will do, but it's got to be better than what we KNOW H will do, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make myself vote for him. In my case however, a vote for Johnson or Stein, or no vote at all, is just another vote for H, and I can't allow that to happen either. So back to my original question, what are folks like me to do?
            Simul Justus et Peccator ~Martin Luther

            "We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone" ~John Calvin

            "The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us." ~C. S. Lewis

            "The secret is Christ in me, not me in a different set of circumstances" ~Elisabeth Elliot

            "The law is for the self-righteous to humble their pride; the Gospel is for the lost to remove their despair. ~C. H. Spurgeon
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            • #7
              Originally posted by St_Worm2 View Post
              So what do those of us who don't want to "hang a chad" for either H or the Donald do?? There are two viable candidates, the lessor of two evils being Trump IMHO because we KNOW that Hillary will:
              1) Continue to support/encourage the slaughter of the unborn
              2) Fix the Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare) by taking us to Universal/Single-Payer Healthcare instead (which will turn us from a Capitalist into a Socialist nation)
              3) Appoint non-Constitutionalists to SCOTUS to overrule the Congress when the will of the people needs to be thwarted, and always have a super-liberal majority deciding all other issues
              4) Open our borders
              5) the list goes on.................................
              We're not sure what Trump will do, but it's got to be better than what we KNOW H will do, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make myself vote for him. In my case however, a vote for Johnson or Stein, or no vote at all, is just another vote for H, and I can't allow that to happen either. So back to my original question, what are folks like me to do?
              As a Republican we have already lost, we actually lost when Trump was nominated. The question now is whether Republicans will hold onto Congress and/or the Senate. Hillary has pulled double digits above Trump in the polling with less than a month to the Election. I will continue to do what I have been doing. It is an awesome realization, knowing that these things are not in our hands but in the Lord's. Things can get far worse or better, while we were focused on these imbeciles and their followers, Russia has moved its Nuclear arsenal and Nuclearized Europe. What do you think life would be like under Putin? Oh! no matter what, I have so many Scriptures to reference from the OT about God's people living under one ruler or another.... there's no harm in reminding the Lord to remember us and His promises. Pray!

              In my view, Constitutional Republicans never supported Trump. He doesn't represent us or our platform. The "alternative right" is behind him, and they look more like RINOs than anything else. I considered Pence the hand of God gently trying to put Trump on track, but I must admit, at this point I am praying for forgiveness for any ill thoughts of having that hand retracted. I don't want anything to do with Trump, and I want to distance myself from him. I couldn't care less about what Hillary has or has done, I only cared about our side. It is like a Pastor speaking from the pulpit chastising a congregation, and someone standing up and saying and what about those, the unbelievers outside the church? Really, this is family business and has little to do with anyone outside of our family.

              God bless,
              William
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              • #8
                Originally posted by St_Worm2 View Post
                There are two viable candidates, the lessor of two evils being Trump
                Actually there are four candidates. We will be electing a vice president as well as a president and Trump did choose a good man as his running mate. To me the fact that Mike Pence could become president is reason enough to vote Republican.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by St_Worm2 View Post
                  So what do those of us who don't want to "hang a chad" for either H or the Donald do?? There are two viable candidates, the lessor of two evils being Trump IMHO because we KNOW that Hillary will.

                  We're not sure what Trump will do, but it's got to be better than what we KNOW H will do, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make myself vote for him. In my case however, a vote for Johnson or Stein, or no vote at all, is just another vote for H, and I can't allow that to happen either. So back to my original question, what are folks like me to do?
                  St. I don't know the answer nor do I believe anyone does. I can only follow my own conscience and it tells me that a man who is a liar, a cheat, who cannot keep his marriage vows, who has filed bankruptcy more than once (4 times), and anytime someone does not agree with him he attacked that person like a rabid dog, that is not someone who I can trust nor anyone who ought to have great power.

                  All this talk about the lesser of two evils makes me cringe. This is something the N.T. never teaches and in fact teaches just the opposite.
                  Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? (2 Cor. 6:14-16)
                  The lesser of two evils, as I have said before, is still evil. Is that what the church has come to? We can tolerate a little evil.

                  Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion is not from him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. (Gal. 5:7-9)
                  Evil and\or sin is a disease, insidious, invasive, pervasive.

                  No one should think that I am saying don't vote or don't vote for Trump. Do what you think is best. If you have thought the matter out, prayed on the matter, then follow your conscience.
                  Last edited by Origen; 10-11-2016, 08:04 AM.
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                  • #10
                    With how things have been going since Sunday's debate I am wondering how bad things need to get before the Republican establishment tries to undercut Trump and suggest that they modify the ticket to say that Mike Pence is the nominee and they pick someone new to be his running mate.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Knotical View Post
                      With how things have been going since Sunday's debate I am wondering how bad things need to get before the Republican establishment tries to undercut Trump and suggest that they modify the ticket to say that Mike Pence is the nominee and they pick someone new to be his running mate.
                      According to the Red State they can not legally do that. Trump must step down, die, or the Electoral vote must throw the election by not voting for either candidate.

                      God bless,
                      William
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                      • #12
                        With how things have been going since Sunday's debate I am wondering how bad things need to get before the Republican establishment tries to undercut Trump and suggest that they modify the ticket to say that Mike Pence is the nominee and they pick someone new to be his running mate. ~Knotical
                        From today: Just FYI - Trump is the RNC's candidate for POTUS and I cannot see that changing between now and election day!! See below from CNN:
                        Washington (CNN): Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus reiterated his support Monday for embattled Republican nominee Donald Trump -- telling members of the RNC that the operation stands fully behind his campaign.

                        Nothing has changed in regard with our relationship, Priebus said in a call with RNC committee members, according to sources on the call. We are in full coordination with the Trump campaign. We have a great relationship with them. And we are going to continue to work together to make sure he wins in November. The move to present a united front with the Trump campaign comes after earlier Monday, Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan told Republican members of the House he would no longer defend Trump, but did not formally rescind his endorsement.

                        Priebus convened the call with members on short notice over the weekend, and did not take any questions. His remarks lasted less than 14 minutes.

                        Trump's support in the Republican Party has eroded in the past few days after a 2005 recording surfaced of him making lewd and sexually aggressive comments toward women. Several prominent members of the party have pulled support for Trump, and the vast majority have publicly condemned his comments.

                        Which Republicans are abandoning Trump and which are sticking with him?

                        Monday, Priebus emphasized he does not defend the controversial remarks.

                        "Like all of you, I don't condone what was said in the video," he said. "In fact, the campaign itself doesn't defend the words in that video."

                        But the GOP chairman said that Trump comported himself well in Sunday night's debate and apologized from the heart.

                        Priebus also pushed back on media reports of turmoil inside the RNC or efforts to pull back support from Trump. He said no one has left the RNC or the campaign, and said there were no meetings about rules to replace a nominee. He also said no efforts through the party and campaign's joint operation, Trump Victory, were halted.

                        He said efforts were "ahead of budget" and donations were still strong.

                        "Everything is on course," Priebus said.

                        He also dismissed as "silly" the protest at RNC headquarters organized by a former Virginia campaign chairman for Trump, noting that the man, Corey Stewart, had been let go by the campaign.

                        Trump campaign fires Virginia chair after protest

                        Priebus' move stood in contrast with the tone struck by Ryan, a close friend and political ally of the chairman, on a call with his GOP conference Monday morning.

                        Ryan told members he would not defend Trump and focus on protecting Republican majorities in Congress. He faced pushback from a few members on the call who accused him of ceding the White House. Ryan spokesman Zack Roday said the speaker "made it clear on the call he's not conceding the presidential race."
                        Simul Justus et Peccator ~Martin Luther

                        "We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone" ~John Calvin

                        "The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us." ~C. S. Lewis

                        "The secret is Christ in me, not me in a different set of circumstances" ~Elisabeth Elliot

                        "The law is for the self-righteous to humble their pride; the Gospel is for the lost to remove their despair. ~C. H. Spurgeon
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Origen View Post
                          St. I don't know the answer nor do I believe anyone does. I can only follow my own conscience and it tells me that a man who is a liar, a cheat, who cannot keep his marriage vows, who has filed bankruptcy more than once (4 times), and anytime someone does not agree with him he attacked that person like a rabid dog, that is not someone who I can trust nor anyone who ought to have great power.
                          Hi Brother, I understand and agree!

                          The reality of the situation is this however, either H or the Donald WILL be POTUS. Considering what you just said about Trump, do you believe Hillary Rodham is the better choice for that position then?

                          Originally posted by Origen View Post
                          All this talk about the lesser of two evils makes me cringe. This is something the N.T. never teaches and in fact teaches just the opposite.The lesser of two evils, as I have said before, is still evil. Is that what the church has come to? We can tolerate a little evil.

                          Evil and\or sin is a disease, insidious, invasive, pervasive.
                          Again, I have no qualm with what you've just said, but it doesn't answer the question we have before us, "WHO will make the best POTUS"? Both H and the Donald are fallen beings, and we know that both have sinned, nevertheless, one of them will be our next President. Should we not, both as citizens and as Christians, at least try to see that the person we believe is best for the job between the two of them gets elected?

                          If not, why not?

                          I'm not trying to put you (or anyone else who chooses to answer that question) on the spot, I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind it, especially how 'not' voting could be seen as the better option this election cycle than trying to vote in the best man (or woman) for the job (even if neither one of them is a good choice).

                          Thanks!

                          --David
                          Last edited by David Lee; 10-11-2016, 11:03 PM.
                          Simul Justus et Peccator ~Martin Luther

                          "We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone" ~John Calvin

                          "The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us." ~C. S. Lewis

                          "The secret is Christ in me, not me in a different set of circumstances" ~Elisabeth Elliot

                          "The law is for the self-righteous to humble their pride; the Gospel is for the lost to remove their despair. ~C. H. Spurgeon
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by St_Worm2 View Post
                            Hi Brother, I understand and agree!

                            The reality of the situation is this however, either H or the Donald WILL be POTUS. Considering what you just said about Trump, do you believe Hillary Rodham is the better choice for that position then?
                            Better? Oh no, I would not vote Clinton but I don't think of Trump as being a better choice.

                            Originally posted by St_Worm2 View Post
                            I have no qualm with what you've just said, but it doesn't answer the question we have before us, "WHO will make the best POTUS"? Both H and the Donald are fallen beings, and we know that both have sinned, nevertheless, one of them will be our next President. Should we not, both as citizens and as Christians, at least try to see that the person we believe is best for the job between the two of them gets elected?
                            Well, as I said above, follow your conscience. That is all any of us can do.

                            Originally posted by St_Worm2 View Post
                            I'm not trying to put you (or anyone else who chooses to answer that question) on the spot, I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind it, especially how 'not' voting could be seen as the better option this election cycle than trying to vote in the best man (or woman) for the job (even if neither one of them is a good choice).
                            I am not suggesting that anyone not vote. Do what you think is best. If you have thought the matter out, prayed on the matter, then follow your conscience. I have no words of wisdom that can settle the matter.
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                            • #15
                              Hi Brother, I honestly don't know what I'm going to do. Like you, I could NEVER vote for Hillary, but not voting from Trump IS a vote for Hillary, at least in my case (since I have always been a Republican and have always voted Republican).

                              Trump is a nasty and arrogant guy, and I can't believe it's come down to a choice between these two, but no matter how much we may want the situation to be different, the truth is, one of them will be POTUS. With Hillary, we KNOW what we will get, and it's truly frightening to think about. At least with Trump there is 'hope' that Obama's ludicrous social and fiscal agendas might be curtailed a bit, and that our borders and our country might be made safe and secure.

                              As an aside, I am happy/proud that our nation is so attractive to foreigners that they'd choose to fall over our border to give birth to an American citizen (to give their children hope for a far better life and future than they have), but that there are, at the same time, so many in this country who want to destroy the very things that made it so attractive to begin with. If left's agenda is allowed to continue and to grow, I'm certain the opposite effect will shortly come to pass (IOW, our citizens will be falling over our southern border to become Mexican citizens .. if Mexico allows something as crazy as that to occur, that is).

                              Nothing inside me would allow me to vote for Trump, except the sure knowledge of what is all but guaranteed to happen to this nation and its people (which, of course, includes its UNBORN citizens) if HRC takes the office from Obama.

                              I guess I'm looking to do the best thing I can with my vote (or lack thereof), so I'm looking for reasons for how it would be more beneficial in the short and/or in the long run to choose to NOT vote this time around. If that's what you're doing, IOW, choosing not to vote, why do you believe that our nation and our people will be better because of it?

                              Thanks!

                              --David
                              Simul Justus et Peccator ~Martin Luther

                              "We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone" ~John Calvin

                              "The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us." ~C. S. Lewis

                              "The secret is Christ in me, not me in a different set of circumstances" ~Elisabeth Elliot

                              "The law is for the self-righteous to humble their pride; the Gospel is for the lost to remove their despair. ~C. H. Spurgeon
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