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    About Fasting

    If a person that was real sick and went from 200 pounds to possibly under a hundred pounds can they still fast? When normal weight should be 135 Pounds? Cause I'm over 6 feet. How can a person fast without getting more under weight? For some reason I can not gain weight and my appetite is poor still. But I feel I need to fast to be delivered for what ails me.

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    I would strongly suggest getting medical advice before considering fasting. If you've already dropped nearly half your weight, especially if it happened quickly, that may not be healthy. There are certain medical conditions that also make the thought of food extremely unappealing, and it is important to be sure that you are fasting for spiritual reasons, not a physical illness.

    Most faiths wish to know that you are in good health before you fast, and pregnant women and the sick are often exempted. If you are uncertain, talk to your pastor or vicar for guidance.

    And take care of yourself. You don't sound as though you are well at the moment, so don't be afraid to ask for help from your church, your friends, or here.
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      #3
      They do say fasting can be done for spiritual reason and for healing. That was what i read before. But i will check. But you do know that Pharmaceutical medications are sorcery? I can share proof it is straight from the Bible. You remember when the Israelites made that golden calf to worship after the 10 commandments? So God said they would not see the promised land and they wondered around the desert. Complaining all the time. So God got tired of the complaining and threw snakes down there with them. They got bit and they told Moses to ask for forgiveness. God told Moses to take a silver snake and wrap it around a pole. And the Israelites could look at it and be healed. We'll later on the the Israelites took that same snake and put it in the tent and worshipped it. God told Moses to get rid of it. Well that same snake wrapped around a pole is what they use now for that medications symbols. Something the Israelite's worshipped as a god. I edited to add more on here. I also will not go back to a doctor you know why? Cause the last time I went he wanted to give me 5 vaccines and I told him no. He said he would bring in 5 nurses to hold me down if he had to. Thank you for your advice i think I will take your advice.

      Pharmaceuticals -The Sorceries of Babylon

      The second link I got from the first link at Phamakeia(Strong's G5331)

      Pharmakeia is Pharmacuetical in greek

      G5331 - pharmakeia - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV)
      Last edited by Amber Crystal; 12-24-2016, 02:15 AM. Reason: So I can thank her for her advice.
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        #4
        I am appalled to hear that. Any doctor that would give you medications against your will should be reported and struck off, particularly if you are paying for your own treatment.

        But thanks for your reply, and I learned a lot because of it. I was slightly thrown by your mention of the snake as a symbol of medicine. I'm not in the US, and our normal symbol for medical treatment or services is the green cross. It was adopted when the medical associations replaced their original symbol, the red cross of the crusaders, in 1863, so the International Red Cross could use it. I ended up looking on wiki to confirm it, and yep, apparently the US uses the caduceus, the symbol of a sumerian religion as the symbol for medicine. Very strange to me, and apparently due to a mistake in the 1920's.

        It seems in the US the green cross stands for legalising medical marijuana. All I can say is anyone who comes across here and sees all the green crosses at hospitals, pharmacies, etc. is going to get very confused!

        Take care of yourself, and have a happy Christmas.
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          #5
          You know God considers prescription medications as Sorcery. The only reason He allows it is cause He knows that people who do not know Him will not get treatment if they did not get it. But God has stopped Christians from getting treatment from the Medications and other things. If ever you get denied a treatment you can believe it is God stopping it.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
            You know God considers prescription medications as Sorcery. The only reason He allows it is cause He knows that people who do not know Him will not get treatment if they did not get it. But God has stopped Christians from getting treatment from the Medications and other things. If ever you get denied a treatment you can believe it is God stopping it.
            That's just absurd. God also uses ordinary means. A universal commandment from Genesis was to subdue the earth which can entail curing disease, other illnesses, even improving the environment. God gave us intelligence and reason, and without the Logos Science would not even exists.

            To say that a person is ill because they do not have "enough" faith is just horrible doctrine. For the love of Pete, Luke was a Dr., there is nothing wrong with modern medicine... . it is the abuse of any substance that is wrong that the bible would condemn. Even in Proverbs the medicine of the day, alcohol, was used to alleviate pain. Of course alcohol can be abused, but ingesting alcohol or even pain medication is not a sin.

            The New Testament Greek word translated “sorcery” is pharmakeia, which is the source of our English word pharmacy. In Paul’s day, the word primarily meant “dealing in poison” or “drug use” and was applied to divination and spell-casting because sorcerers often used drugs along with their incantations and amulets to conjure occult power. Another words it was used to alter consciousness, much the same way chanting (repetitious prayer) or even music can be used for spiritual purposes.

            God bless,
            William

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              #7
              Originally posted by William View Post
              That's just absurd. God also uses ordinary means. A universal commandment from Genesis was to subdue the earth which can entail curing disease, other illnesses, even improving the environment. God gave us intelligence and reason, and without the Logos Science would not even exists.

              To say that a person is ill because they do not have "enough" faith is just horrible doctrine. For the love of Pete, Luke was a Dr., there is nothing wrong with modern medicine... . it is the abuse of any substance that is wrong that the bible would condemn. Even in Proverbs the medicine of the day, alcohol, was used to alleviate pain. Of course alcohol can be abused, but ingesting alcohol or even pain medication is not a sin.

              The New Testament Greek word translated “sorcery” is pharmakeia, which is the source of our English word pharmacy. In Paul’s day, the word primarily meant “dealing in poison” or “drug use” and was applied to divination and spell-casting because sorcerers often used drugs along with their incantations and amulets to conjure occult power. Another words it was used to alter consciousness, much the same way chanting (repetitious prayer) or even music can be used for spiritual purposes.

              God bless,
              William
              You are correct William. Today pharmacology has nothing to do with magic or sorcery. There is no relationship. If we follow that line of reasoning then no one ought to study astronomy because it developed from\out of astrology. The fact is there is no longer any relationship between the two.
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                #8
                William I am not lying to you. If you read these you will find the link to sorcery and Prescription medication in Revelations You see William I'm on Methadone for Codeine Addiction. I have the Holy Spirit but I cannot hear Him cause of the methadone. I feel Him as a tingling Sensation, I was called back to God cause I burn Christian Music Cd's and deliver them to methadone clinics. For the Glory of Christ to get sinners to turn to Christ. I have 47 songs if you want them I can give them to you. Through Drop Box. I work in the Body of Christ. You can ask my friends I gave them the song such as Revelation song by Gateway worship. And Sanctuary, I give you my heart Lord, Holy Spirit rain down by Darlene Zechech. And one song I do not know where it came from I do not have singer for it. I do not know where it came from. It is called you are Incredible God I could not find that song on a google search I do not remember buying that song . Then there is the song Let it be Jesus I was listening to that song and the Holy Spirit started nudging me to get that song. And I did bought the whole Cd. And I'm adding more songs to my collection. Okay William you do know that the snake wrapped around a pole represents Prescription medication but do you know where it actually came from? When the Israelite's made that bull calf and worshipped it while God was making the 10 commandments He was so upset He said that they would not see the promised land. So they were led out in the wilderness for 40 years until they died out and a new generation came to be. So They started complaining all the time. So God threw snakes on the ground and they were bit. They told Mose to ask God for forgiveness so God told Moses to take metal snake and wrap it around a pole and if they looked at it they would be healed. Later the snake wrapped around a pole was found in a tent they were worshipping it. God told moses to get rid of it. But that is where the snake wrapped around a pole came form for the prescription medication. The Rockefeller's own Big Pharma they are satans worshipper in the Illuminati. Can you not see where this medication come from? I used to share on Conspiracy Theory and the reason I did was to share about Jesus Christ. But God stopped me I got really depressed and i cry a lot and can not control it. I asked God why I could not control my crying He led me to a article Huffington Post made about Highly Sensitive people I have was abused as a Child severely and I can relate to people suffering. God knew this and stopped me from sharing on there anymore. He turned off my Computer or sent me to the New google + i got lost in there plenty of times. I spent my time in my room listen and praising God. And I read my Bible and do not like to leave my room. Loud noises effect me severely. highly sensitive people can not have a lot of stimuli. It si something to do with their nerves. I love staying in my room with God


                Pharmaceuticals -The Sorceries of Babylon


                G5331 - pharmakeia - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV)
                Last edited by Amber Crystal; 12-27-2016, 05:13 PM. Reason: I looked on-line for that song You're Incredible God and could not find it or the singer.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                  William I am not lying to you. If you read these you will find the link to sorcery and Prescription medication in Revelations You see William I'm on Methadone for Codeine Addiction. I have the Holy Spirit but I cannot hear Him cause of the methadone. I feel Him as a tingling Sensation, I was called back to God cause I burn Christian Music Cd's and deliver them to methadone clinics. For the Glory of Christ to get sinners to turn to Christ. I have 47 songs if you want them I can give them to you. Through Drop Box. I work in the Body of Christ. You can ask my friends I gave them the song such as Revelation song by Gateway worship. And Sanctuary, I give you my heart Lord, Holy Spirit rain down by Darlene Zechech. And one song I do not know where it came from I do not have singer for it. I do not know where it came from. It is called you are Incredible God I could not find that song on a google search I do not remember buying that song . Then there is the song Let it be Jesus I was listening to that song and the Holy spirit started nudging me to get that song. And I did bought the whole Cd. And I'm adding more songs to my collection.


                  Pharmaceuticals -The Sorceries of Babylon


                  G5331 - pharmakeia - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV)
                  Prescription medication is not sorcery according to the Bible. It is sorcery according to you. Sorcery and magic was not merely the use of various plants and remedies but spells, incantations, and rituals in order to placate pagan gods. None of that is present or even part of modern pharmacology.

                  Moreover you are committing the root fallacy. You assume that since a word had one meaning at some point in time (in this case the 1st century), it always carries the same meaning. This is false. Greek scholars have point out that this is a common word study fallacy committed by those who do not know Greek. No competent Greek scholar holds your view and you cannot name one who does.
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                    #10
                    Yeah I understand if you use herbs they are made by God. Do you really think that God would rather you use His herbs or Big Pharma? Which is owned by the Rockefeller's ? Knows Satan worshippers. Fritz Springmeier wrote a book about the Bloodlines of the Illuminati. Fritz went to school and studied the Bible. He told a very interesting thing about the the Rockefeller's he said they sacrifice one baby a day so to use the Blood to write in a book how the AntiChrist will rule. So if we have satan worshippers that make Prescription drugs how can you say they are safe? Besides did you even bother to read the articles I left? Did you see on both sites where they made the connection to sorcery and Prescription medication in the Bible? How can you say it is not true if you do not read it?
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                      #11
                      The words "pharmacy" and "pharmaceutical" are derived from the Greek word, pharmakeia (Strong's G5331). This word is found in the Bible in the following passages of scripture.

                      19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery (pharmakeia), enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
                      Do you not see where in the verse above says Sorcery and the greek spelling of Pharmaceuticals? Pharmakeia is Pharmaceutical in greek.
                      It says so in the Bible see I told you. Do you not see lawsuit against prescription medications? How much proof you want? Look I only do this so you can see what is said about it. God says that he lets people that do not know him go to prescription cause He is a loving God and does not want them to suffer. But in a article He told one Christian that He stopped her from going to specialist. And He did not like her going to a doctor. I will try and find the article. I should know cause I'm on methadone for Codeine addiction before I came back to God I can not hear Him. Or the Holy Spirit, I'm glad Brother J told me about it cause I really though something was wrong with me. I'm getting off.

                      Please try this next time you pray ask God a Question and quiet yourself and focus on Jesus and wait for God to answer. You have to write it down it all comes in Spontaneous thoughts. And or visions.

                      Galatians 5:19-21
                      Last edited by Amber Crystal; 12-27-2016, 06:04 PM. Reason: To add on more proof.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        Yeah I understand if you use herbs they are made by God.
                        Anything made by man comes from something that was made by God.

                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        Do you really think that God would rather you use His herbs or Big Pharma?
                        That is a ridiculous question. You are assuming that God would not. You have no evidence for such a claim.

                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        Which is owned by the Rockefeller's ? Knows Satan worshippers. Fritz Springmeier wrote a book about the Bloodlines of the Illuminati. Fritz went to school and studied the Bible. He told a very interesting thing about the the Rockefeller's he said they sacrifice one baby a day so to use the Blood to write in a book how the AntiChrist will rule.
                        Oh, now I see. Conspiracy theorist.

                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        So if we have satan worshippers that make Prescription drugs how can you say they are safe?
                        Pure nonsense.

                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        Besides did you even bother to read the articles I left?
                        Oh but I did. That is how I know you are being mislead by people who do not know anything concerning such topics. The errors on that site are numerous and asinine. If you were to check real scholars rather than those nuts you would be much better off.

                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        Did you see on both sites where they made the connection to sorcery and Prescription medication in the Bible?
                        Lady, I had my first Greek class in the fall of 1983. I have being reading and studying Greek for nearly 33 years. I promise you that site is pure gibberish.

                        Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                        How can you say it is not true if you do not read it?
                        Again, I did. You need to study reliable sources by qualified scholars in their field of study.
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                          #13
                          You remind me of the Jewish people that crucified Christ so in the blind. Is that what you as a Christian does criticize other Christians? I know this is true and everyone i shared it with on Google + believed. I can not believe it is right there smack in your face in the Bible and you can not see it. And you still do not see the truth. Brother satan has blinded you to truth and there is something wrong with you. . Even if it says in the New Testament Prescription are sorcery you still do not believe okay Pharisee. It is right there in Galatians 5:19-21 I quote it agains and you say it is not so. Galatians 5: 19 you must go by the Bible of satan. Cause I share the Bible verse you also said the Bible is rubbage cause the verse from the Bible is right in front of your face.
                          So what you are saying the Bible is lying. Do you always contradict the word of God? GOOD LUCK PHARISEE YOU ARE JUST LIKE THEM BLINDED BY SATAN'S LIES.
                          Good luck with the lies satan is feeding you.
                          Galatians 5:19 says,.......
                          19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery (pharmakeia), enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
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                            #14
                            ARE YOU CRAZY ASTROLOGY IS EVIL? IT IS ALSO WITCHCRAFT AND YOU CONDONE IT. ASTROLOGY IS A SIN AGAINST GOD AND YOU PEOPLE ARE MISLEADING CHRISTIANS. FOUL SATAN I REBUKE YOU.
                            YOU SAID ORIGEN THAT ASTROLOGY AND ASTRONOMY IS OKAY TO STUDY.
                            You are correct William. Today pharmacology has nothing to do with magic or sorcery. There is no relationship. If we follow that line of reasoning then no one ought to study astronomy because it developed from\out of astrology. The fact is there is no longer any relationship between the two.

                            HERE IN BIBLE SAYS THAT ASTROLOGY IS WRONG... GOD SAYS HE WILL BURN UP UNREPENTANT ASTROLOGERS (ISAIAH 47:13-14)
                            GOD FORBIDS THIS WORSHIP OF THE CONSTELLATIONS AND HOST OF HEAVEN.
                            Although some firmly believe that the success of their day, the good fortune of their decisions and even their lives depend on advice they get from the signs of the zodiac, this is not what God says. God nowhere in the Bible tells us to build our lives around moon phases and the signs of the zodiac as astrologers teach. God even said that He will burn up unrepentant astrologers (Isaiah 47:13-14).

                            Jeremiah 10:2-3 tells us very clearly: “Thus saith the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain …” (King James Version).

                            Astrology, moreover, is a form of idolatry because it puts man's devices before God's ways. Astrologers teach people to try to obtain success by means of astrology. But God expressly forbids this worship of the constellations and the host of heaven (2 Kings 23:5).

                            Just before the nation of Israel entered the Promised Land, God, through Moses, reminded the people about the importance of obeying the laws that He had given them.

                            Notice the word of caution recorded in Deuteronomy 4:19: “And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which the Lord your God has given to all the people under the whole heaven as a heritage.”

                            The sun, moon and stars were not to be served in any way. The signs of the zodiac are not something to put stock in or to believe as determiners of our daily lives or destinies.

                            ASTROLOGYZODIACIDOLATRYCHRISTIAN LIVINGCONVERSIO




                            Although some firmly believe that
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              You remind me of the Jewish people that crucified Christ so in the blind.
                              lol

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              Is that what you as a Christian does criticize other Christians?
                              I criticize beliefs that are not biblical and views that are not based on facts and good reasoning.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              I know this is true and everyone i shared it with on Google + believed.
                              The truth of any belief is not decided by how many believe something is true. Logic 101

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              I can not believe it is right there smack in your face in the Bible and you can not see it.
                              Hardly! If what you say is correct then you ought to be able to cite Greek scholars to support your claims. But you can't because there are none. Your source is wrong and cannot be supported.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              And you still do not see the truth.
                              No Greek scholars or scholarly lexicon support your claim.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              Brother satan has blinded you to truth and there is something wrong with you.
                              I know. It is called education, study, testing claims and beliefs according to the Scriptures and sound reasoning.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              Even if it says in the New Testament Prescription are sorcery you still do not believe okay Pharisee.
                              It doesn't say that and I explained why. I noticed that you could not address my points.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              It is right there in Galatians 5:19-21 I quote it agains and you say it is not so. Galatians 5: 19 you must go by the Bible of satan. Cause I share the Bible verse you also said the Bible is rubbage cause the verse from the Bible is right in front of your face.
                              Wrong again. I explained why your view is wrong but you did not, more likely could not, address it. By the way I never said the Bible is "rubbage," what ever that is.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              So what you are saying the Bible is lying.
                              No, your source is lying and you are very mislead.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              Do you always contradict the word of God?
                              Since I have not, your question is silly.

                              Originally posted by Amber Crystal View Post
                              GOOD LUCK PHARISEE YOU ARE JUST LIKE THEM BLINDED BY SATAN'S LIES. Good luck with the lies satan is feeding you.
                              First there is no such thing as luck. Second your pitiful and pathetic attempt to turn this into something it is not rather than addressing my points really lets everyone know that you have no answers to my points and therefore must resort to such tactic.
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