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    Just believing in someone named "Jesus" means nothing unless we are talking about the Jesus Christ of the Bible. The one, eternal, everlasting, uncreated God. The one who created ALL things. It is like if you know someone called "bob" and i know another person called "bob". Now, can we have a conversation about "bob" without defining WHO we are talking about? No.

    The mormon, Jehovahs Witness, Seventh Day Adventist, etc. "Jesus" is NOT the Jesus Christ of the Bible.



    Did Jesus really say He was God?

    That’s exactly how Jesus’ original audience seemed to take it when He said, “I and the Father are one.” In fact, the Jews were ready to kill Him right there! Why? “Because you,” they said, “a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33).

    On another occasion, He used the personal name of Israel’s God–the name revealed to Moses (Exodus 3:14)–to refer to Himself. And He even used the Torah for context, so no one would misunderstand Him: “Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). This would be about wild as telling a Muslim, “I am your God, Allah.” Don’t try that in Saudi Arabia! It’s no wonder the Jews tried to stone Him to death. That was the exact penalty for blasphemy under the Jewish legal system. It was pretty clear to everyone there that He was saying, “I am Israel’s God.”


    Why Jesus is God? The Apostle Thomas called Jesus God.John 20:27-29: 2. The Apostle Peter called Jesus God.2 Peter 1:1: 3.The Apostle John called Jesus God.John 1:1-3, 4.God the Father called Jesus God.Hebrews 1:8: 5. God the Father called Jesus God. 6.Isaiah the Prophet said the Messiah would be God.Isaiah 9:67. The Jews who crucified Jesus understood Him to be saying that He was equal with God.John 5:18: 8.Jesus called Himself "I AM", the Old Testament name for God (Exodus 3:14).John 8:58-59. 9.Jesus calls Himself "the Alpha and Omega," the title of Almighty God.Revelation 22:12-13. 10. Like God (Gen. 1:1) Jesus created.Colossians 1:16-1711. Like God, Jesus forgives sin.Mark 2:5-7, 10-11:12. Like God, Jesus gives eternal life.John 10:27-28: 13. Like God, Jesus received, receives and will receive Read More 14:32-33. 14. Jesus said that only God was good; and Jesus was good. John 10:11: "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep."John 10:11: "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep."Jesus was as good as they come. He was "sinless," "holy," "righteous," "innocent," "undefiled," and "separate from sinners." (Hebrews 7:26) That's pretty good! 15. Like God, Jesus can be present in more than one place at the same time.Matthew 18:20: 16. One of Jesus' titles is "God with us."Matthew 1:23. 17. Jesus' blood is called God's blood.Acts 20:28: 18. Jesus has the same nature as God.Hebrews 1:3a: 19. Jesus spoke as God.Jesus did not speak as one of God's prophets: "thus says the Lord," but as God: "I say to you."Matthew 5:27-29. 20. Like God (Psalm 136:3), Jesus is called the Lord of Lords and King of kings.Revelation 17:14. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. ( WHEN WAS GOD PIERCED? ). And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel (means God Among Us).


    John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
    John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
    John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." Crossreference with Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."
    John 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."
    John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
    Collossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
    Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: "
    Matthew 4:10 "Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Crossreference with Matthew 2:2, Matthew 2:11, Matthew 28:9.
    Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Crossreference with Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he." and Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

    In the original Greek, John 1:1 says "Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος." Which in English is "In beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and God was the Word.".

    John 8:58 in the original Greek reads "εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Ἰησοῦς Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί " which in English reads "Said to them Jesus Truly truly I say to you Before Abraham was I am".

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    This is an interesting interpretation. I always believed that Jesus Christ is not God. As far as I know Jesus Christ never said he was God. Instead he said I am God's son. Jesus Christ always referred God as father.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by luri View Post
      This is an interesting interpretation. I always believed that Jesus Christ is not God. As far as I know Jesus Christ never said he was God. Instead he said I am God's son. Jesus Christ always referred God as father.
      Actually Jesus said quite plainly, and several times, that He is God. Not only that, but both the Old and the New Testament clearly identify Him as very God -- begotten, not created. So perhaps (a) you have not done your homework properly or (b) you have been influenced by those who teach that Jesus is not God.

      The way to look at this if that if Jesus was not God, He could not possibly die for the sins of the whole world and purchased our redemption with His own blood. Please note carefully (Acts 20:28): Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. There is not a single translation which does not state this.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by luri View Post
        This is an interesting interpretation. I always believed that Jesus Christ is not God. As far as I know Jesus Christ never said he was God. Instead he said I am God's son. Jesus Christ always referred God as father.
        Oh, its not an interpretation, its what Jesus said.

        Yes, whilst ON EARTH, Jesus DID have a father in heaven, unless you think Jesus would be an atheist?

        Jesus is the Son of God but also God the son.

        Read the passages that i posted.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lucas View Post
          Actually Jesus said quite plainly, and several times, that He is God. Not only that, but both the Old and the New Testament clearly identify Him as very God -- begotten, not created. So perhaps (a) you have not done your homework properly or (b) you have been influenced by those who teach that Jesus is not God.

          The way to look at this if that if Jesus was not God, He could not possibly die for the sins of the whole world and purchased our redemption with His own blood. Please note carefully (Acts 20:28): Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. There is not a single translation which does not state this.
          Amen.

          Umm, the NIV does remove the redemption though the blood doctrine.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post
            Umm, the NIV does remove the redemption though the blood doctrine.
            Then the NIV did not do a very good job of removing the doctrine since it left this very important passage in the text. That is strange. Maybe they just forgot and planed to remove it at a later date. They have only had ca. 44 years to get it done.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Origen View Post
              Then the NIV did not do a very good job of removing the doctrine since it left this very important passage in the text. That is strange. Maybe they just forgot and planed to remove it at a later date. They have only had ca. 44 years to get it done.
              Colossians 1:14 "in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.". bold is removed.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post
                Colossians 1:14 "in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.". bold is removed.
                How does that address anything I said? You said the NIV was removing a doctrine. I pointed out the NIV did not remove this important text concerning blood despite the fact the NIV has had ca. 44 years to remove it. And not only that, the NIV did not remove Eph. 1:7 (i.e. "In him we have redemption through his blood...").
                Last edited by Origen; 06-21-2017, 09:25 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by luri
                  This is an interesting interpretation. I always believed that Jesus Christ is not God. As far as I know Jesus Christ never said he was God. Instead he said I am God's son. Jesus Christ always referred God as father.

                  Hi Luri.

                  I know it might seem confusing, but the Bible makes the claim that Jesus is both God, and The Son of God :

                  1 John 5:7
                  [7]For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wfredeemed009 View Post

                    Hi Luri.

                    I know it might seem confusing, but the Bible makes the claim that Jesus is both God, and The Son of God :

                    1 John 5:7
                    [7]For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
                    Correct. If we firmly keep in mind that we are discussing the MYSTERY OF GOD we will not stumble over what appears to be contradictory. How can God (or more precisely "the Godhead") be ONE and yet THREE? The answer is that within the Godhead, we have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are three distinct Divine Persons, yet one God.

                    Using analogies from nature will never provide a satisfactory explanation, therefore this truth must be accepted by faith because that is exactly what is revealed in Scripture. Please note (Matthew 28:19):Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: You will notice that "name" is singular (which signifies one God) yet three Divine Persons are named -- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post

                      Colossians 1:14 "in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.". bold is removed.
                      I have the older NIV -- that verse has a foot note at the bottom of the page " vs 14 a few late manuscripts "redemption through his blood". So it Is there.
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