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  • Another Denomination falls to sins of Omission.

    The PCA will now be allowing women in church leadership.

    PCA Goes Back to Where It Started: Women’s Ordination | News & Reporting | Christianity Today

    This is rather ironic as this was a main reason they split from the PCUSA 40 years ago.

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    Originally posted by Knotical View Post
    The PCA will now be allowing women in church leadership.

    PCA Goes Back to Where It Started: Women’s Ordination | News & Reporting | Christianity Today

    This is rather ironic as this was a main reason they split from the PCUSA 40 years ago.
    Wish I could say that this is unbelievable.

    God bless,
    William
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    • #3
      Originally posted by William View Post

      Wish I could say that this is unbelievable, but from I have seen, the PCA has allowed Arminian and Dispensationlist Pastors. Not to mention I have ran into various members of the PCA that are quite liberal. With women pastors this is the beginning of a very slippery slope... .

      My only concern is that the OPC may recruit Pastors from the PCA, which seems to be happening in cases when there is a shortage of OPC Pastors.

      God bless,
      William
      Quite possibly, also, as the article points out, there are people leaving the PCUSA because they allow gay pastors, and are joining the PCA.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Knotical View Post

        Quite possibly, also, as the article points out, there are people leaving the PCUSA because they allow gay pastors, and are joining the PCA.
        Makes sense. Same thing happen(ed) to the Republican party.

        We had a Pastor step down, and I know our church began looking into the PCA for a replacement Pastor, because there is a shortage of OPC Pastors. I am just curious whether this will change the interviewing or screening process.

        God bless,
        William
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        • #5
          What will be interesting to see in the coming weeks/months is how many churches that are currently members of this denomination will ultimately start leaving and possibly join the OPC or other conservative denominations. We could certainly use the increase in membership, as long as they don't bring any liberal doctrines with them.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Knotical View Post
            What will be interesting to see in the coming weeks/months is how many churches that are currently members of this denomination will ultimately start leaving and possibly join the OPC or other conservative denominations. We could certainly use the increase in membership, as long as they don't bring any liberal doctrines with them.
            Wonder if the screening process can be more stringent towards new members coming from the PCA? Though, I would think that any exodus from the PCA to the OPC would be conservative in theology.

            God bless,
            William
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            • #7
              Originally posted by William View Post

              Wonder if the screening process can be more stringent towards new members coming from the PCA? Though, I would think that any exodus from the PCA to the OPC would be conservative in theology.

              God bless,
              William
              I doubt it. The session of our church always sits down with any potential members to get a feel for what they believe and where they are doctrinally. And if you are referring to possible pastors coming over, the current vetting process is already pretty stringent.
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              • #8
                Praying here for orthodoxy to prevail!
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                • #9
                  This is no where close to being a done deal from what I can see. They haven't even formed the "committee" to look into the issue yet. See the excerpt below from the article:

                  One of the reasons that the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) left the Presbyterian Church in the United States 40 years ago was because the new denomination opposed women in church leadership.

                  Last week, the PCA General Assembly
                  voted to form a committee to take up the issue again. The seven-person committee will look at the biblical basis and theology of ordination and of the office of deacon, then report back to the General Assembly any changes to consider.

                  In the meantime, PCA churches are encouraged to promote the participation of women “in appropriate ministries.” The denomination currently does not appoint female members as elders or deacons.


                  I was in the PCUSA for years (until I just couldn't take it anymore :rolleyes:) and many things that were broached at the General Assembly never saw the light of day, PTL (well, back then anyways).

                  Personally, I agree with the denomination I am presently a part of (Evangelical Free) and do not have a problem with female deacons, as long the role of deacons is not the same as "elders" (we do not allow female elders or pastors in the EFCA).

                  --David
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                  • #10
                    Quite honestly if they are truly looking at the biblical basis and theology of ordination the review should be extremely short. A truly biblical perspective will always arrive at the conclusion that women should not be deacons, elders, or pastors. Period. End of story. No more need for discussion.

                    The only time this comes up is when there is a shortage of Godly men to step up and fill these offices.
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