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  • #31
    Originally posted by theophilus View Post
    Perhaps he believed the words were his but they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.
    That may be, but Paul wouldn't have thought that way, and he wouldn't have been conscious of the Holy Spirit's activity.

    The only biblical authors who may have consciously thought of their words as coming directly from God are the prophets.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ThyWordisTruth View Post

      That is not a question I can make head or tail of. Would some of the authors' contemporaries have disagreed with what they were saying? Certainly, but cultures do not have collective minds, and they do not agree or disagree about anything.




      I certainly do. When Paul castigated the Corinthians, he did so in his own words.
      How do you know it was not GODS words?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post

        How do you know it was not GODS words?
        Either the idea that a house can develop leprosy reflects the way people thought at the time, or God makes mistakes. If you discount the latter, then you are left with the former.

        Probably the most satisfactory way of thinking about it is that God accomodates himself to the understaning of the world held by the people he wishes to address.

        If God was addressing us, he might talk in terms of evolution, and the big bang theory, rather than in terms of the dieas people will have of the world two or three thousand years hence. Apart from anything else, we wouldn't be able to make head or tail of the ideas which will then be commonplace.
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        • #34
          Am I understanding 'this' correctly. The question appears to be as to whether the person's being inspired to write Scripture, New they were being inspired - or if they were writing letters to a community that ended up being included in God's Word. The verse says that All Scripture has been given by inspiration of God. and is profitable for........

          Maybe we could agree that since these books are in the Bible -- they are meant to be there -- for back Then as well as Now.

          And Genesis - - the book of beginnings -- the entire book has been given to us - and them to educate all of us as to how this world came to being and everything in it. Because God knew that evolution / big bang theory Would be coming up in the future. So He's given us the information we needed then and need Now.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by ThyWordisTruth View Post

            If God was addressing us, he might talk in terms of evolution, and the big bang theory, rather than in terms of the dieas people will have of the world two or three thousand years hence. Apart from anything else, we wouldn't be able to make head or tail of the ideas which will then be commonplace.
            why would God talk in terms of something that does not exist? no such thing as evolution or "the big bang theory"
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post

              why would God talk in terms of something that does not exist? no such thing as evolution or "the big bang theory"
              Because, even if that were the case, they are still the way in which most people today understand the world, and that includes most Christians outside of the USA.

              Were God to inspire a Genesis 2017 edition, his intention would be to teach us about himself; not to enlighten us about what the scientific world view will look like in 4017. So likewise, when God addressed the ancient Israelites, he did so in terms of the concepts which were part of their mental universe.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by ThyWordisTruth View Post

                Because, even if that were the case, they are still the way in which most people today understand the world, and that includes most Christians outside of the USA.

                Were God to inspire a Genesis 2017 edition, his intention would be to teach us about himself; not to enlighten us about what the scientific world view will look like in 4017. So likewise, when God addressed the ancient Israelites, he did so in terms of the concepts which were part of their mental universe.
                Ok. Im done. You dont believe the Bible. I would sort that out asap, my friend.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post

                  Ok. Im done. You dont believe the Bible. I would sort that out asap, my friend.
                  So you think you have an intellect so vast that God has no need to accomodate himself to you?
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                  • #39
                    @ regarding post # 37 -- and those reading the Genesis 2017 edition by people in 4017 would be learning that God hasn't changed any since Way back Then. And there would be people trying to find reasons to discredit the revised Genesis 2017 for the same reasons people try to discredit the 1611 Genesis. God's Word is eternal -- He knows exactly how this world began and was able to get it in printed form so that Everyone can read His Word and continually be learning from it. :
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sue D. View Post
                      Am I understanding 'this' correctly. The question appears to be as to whether the person's being inspired to write Scripture, New they were being inspired - or if they were writing letters to a community that ended up being included in God's Word. The verse says that All Scripture has been given by inspiration of God. and is profitable for........

                      Maybe we could agree that since these books are in the Bible -- they are meant to be there -- for back Then as well as Now.

                      And Genesis - - the book of beginnings -- the entire book has been given to us - and them to educate all of us as to how this world came to being and everything in it. Because God knew that evolution / big bang theory Would be coming up in the future. So He's given us the information we needed then and need Now.
                      I wouldn't disagree with any of that. When it came to discerning which books should be in the Bible, it can be taken for granted that the Holy Spirit wouldn't have allowed that process to go astray.

                      As for Genesis, when God addresses men, he must inevitably do so in a particular time and place, and in terms that the people then living can understand. In talking about the creation of the universe, there is no way he could have talked about a thermo nuclear reactor 93 million miles away. Instead he talked about a great light he placed in the heavens.

                      The physical picture people have about the universe is really irrelevant. What is relevant is what is left when that is discarded, and what is left in the case of Genesis 1 is a God who created through the sheer power of his word. Who created man to be in a special relationship with himself, and who gave man dominion over his creation.

                      The form of Genesis 1 suggests that it was also a deliberate rejoinder to pagan accounts of creation.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ThyWordisTruth View Post
                        Either the idea that a house can develop leprosy reflects the way people thought at the time, or God makes mistakes.
                        Or the word leprosy doesn't mean the same thing it does today. Today the word is applied to a disease known as Hansen's disease. It must have meant something different in the Bible because lepers are spoken of as being cleansed, not healed. Have you considered the possibility that the translators of the Bible chose the wrong word?
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