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    The Church of Christ is a false church. They require good works for salvation. The Church of Christ is just as dangerous as Catholicism, Jehovah's Witness, or the Mormons, because they claim to be "Christian"; BUT they are not! Whereas religions like Islam and Black Muslim openly deny the Christian faith; the Church of Christ claims to be Christian, and so Satan uses them to seduce people into Hellfire.



    Let's examine just a few points that relate to the Church Of Christ.

    What is the Church?



    The Church of Christ people fail to realize that the "true church" is a spiritual organism, NOT a physical organization. In the tract,Introducing the Church of Christ, by Delton Haun (Haun Tract Co., Pasadena, TX.), we read on page 8 that, "The Lord promised only one kind and built only one kind--There is only one body (Eph. 4:4), and that one body is the church. (Col. 1:18)"

    Here Haun isn't referring to the SPIRITUAL body of Christ. He is referring to his own religious group, which he CALLS the body of Christ. He is referring to his particular group of people who believe and practice the same things, NOT a spiritual body of born-again believers.

    This can be very confusing for an unsaved reader who knows not what it means to be born-again spiritually into the spiritual body of Christ (Jn. 3:3; I Cor. 12:13). The only "church" that the natural man can understand is a PHYSICAL church that he can see with his eyes. A natural man who has never been saved cannot understand how it is possible for people to be "born" into the spiritual body of Christ. Unfortunately, the Church of Christ people don't understand it either.

    On pages 9 and 10 of this same tract, Haun says that, "The church of Christ today is no more or no less than the New Testament church reproduced in doctrine and practice in this twentieth century."

    This is a common belief in the Church of Christ. Another tract titled, Are You Looking for a Church? (Exum Press, Crystal Lake, IL.), says on pages 11 and 12 that the Church of Christ people are actually going back and becoming members of the "original church that Christ built." These people believe that the true Church ceased to exist for about seventeen centuries, and that THEIR church has restored the true faith for today. This would mean that such great Christian men as John Wesley, Martin Luther, John Knox, and George Whitfield were not really members of the "true church" because the "true church" didn't exist in their lifetime.

    There is absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for this doctrine. In Matthew 16:18, the Lord Jesus Christ plainly said, ". . . . I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." The true church has existed since the day Jesus started it. All throughout church history, millions upon millions have entered into the spiritual body of believers by receiving Christ as their Lord and Saviour (Jn. 1:12; Rom. 10:13). If you have received Jesus Christ as your Saviour, then you are a member of the true church, no matter WHAT denomination you are associated with, and if you haven't received Him, then you are NOT a member of the true church, regardless of how many religious groups you join. Salvation is not in a church; it's in a PERSON--the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Church Of Christ

    The Church of Christ is a false church. They require good works for salvation. The Church of Christ is just as dangerous as Catholicism, Jehovah's Witness, or the Mormons, because they claim to be "Christian"; BUT they are not! Whereas religions like Islam and Black Muslim openly deny the Christian faith; the Church of Christ claims to be Christian, and so Satan uses them to seduce people into Hellfire.



    Let's examine just a few points that relate to the Church Of Christ

    What is the Church?



    The Church of Christ people fail to realize that the "true church" is a spiritual organism, NOT a physical organization. In the tract,Introducing the Church of Christ, by Delton Haun (Haun Tract Co., Pasadena, TX.), we read on page 8 that, "The Lord promised only one kind and built only one kind--There is only one body (Eph. 4:4), and that one body is the church. (Col. 1:18)"

    Here Haun isn't referring to the SPIRITUAL body of Christ. He is referring to his own religious group, which he CALLS the body of Christ. He is referring to his particular group of people who believe and practice the same things, NOT a spiritual body of born-again believers.

    This can be very confusing for an unsaved reader who knows not what it means to be born-again spiritually into the spiritual body of Christ (Jn. 3:3; I Cor. 12:13). The only "church" that the natural man can understand is a PHYSICAL church that he can see with his eyes. A natural man who has never been saved cannot understand how it is possible for people to be "born" into the spiritual body of Christ. Unfortunately, the Church of Christ people don't understand it either.

    On pages 9 and 10 of this same tract, Haun says that, "The church of Christ today is no more or no less than the New Testament church reproduced in doctrine and practice in this twentieth century."

    This is a common belief in the Church of Christ. Another tract titled, Are You Looking for a Church? (Exum Press, Crystal Lake, IL.), says on pages 11 and 12 that the Church of Christ people are actually going back and becoming members of the "original church that Christ built." These people believe that the true Church ceased to exist for about seventeen centuries, and that THEIR church has restored the true faith for today. This would mean that such great Christian men as John Wesley, Martin Luther, John Knox, and George Whitfield were not really members of the "true church" because the "true church" didn't exist in their lifetime.

    There is absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for this doctrine. In Matthew 16:18, the Lord Jesus Christ plainly said, ". . . . I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." The true church has existed since the day Jesus started it. All throughout church history, millions upon millions have entered into the spiritual body of believers by receiving Christ as their Lord and Saviour (Jn. 1:12; Rom. 10:13). If you have received Jesus Christ as your Saviour, then you are a member of the true church, no matter WHAT denomination you are associated with, and if you haven't received Him, then you are NOT a member of the true church, regardless of how many religious groups you join. Salvation is not in a church; it's in a PERSON--the Lord Jesus Christ.


    What is the Church?


    The Church of Christ people fail to realize that the "true church" is a spiritual organism, NOT a physical organization. In the tract,Introducing the Church of Christ, by Delton Haun (Haun Tract Co., Pasadena, TX.), we read on page 8 that, "The Lord promised only one kind and built only one kind--There is only one body (Eph. 4:4), and that one body is the church. (Col. 1:18)"

    Here Haun isn't referring to the SPIRITUAL body of Christ. He is referring to his own religious group, which he CALLS the body of Christ. He is referring to his particular group of people who believe and practice the same things, NOT a spiritual body of born-again believers.

    This can be very confusing for an unsaved reader who knows not what it means to be born-again spiritually into the spiritual body of Christ (Jn. 3:3; I Cor. 12:13). The only "church" that the natural man can understand is a PHYSICAL church that he can see with his eyes. A natural man who has never been saved cannot understand how it is possible for people to be "born" into the spiritual body of Christ. Unfortunately, the Church of Christ people don't understand it either.

    On pages 9 and 10 of this same tract, Haun says that, "The church of Christ today is no more or no less than the New Testament church reproduced in doctrine and practice in this twentieth century."

    This is a common belief in the Church of Christ. Another tract titled, Are You Looking for a Church? (Exum Press, Crystal Lake, IL.), says on pages 11 and 12 that the Church of Christ people are actually going back and becoming members of the "original church that Christ built." These people believe that the true Church ceased to exist for about seventeen centuries, and that THEIR church has restored the true faith for today. This would mean that such great Christian men as John Wesley, Martin Luther, John Knox, and George Whitfield were not really members of the "true church" because the "true church" didn't exist in their lifetime.

    There is absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for this doctrine. In Matthew 16:18, the Lord Jesus Christ plainly said, ". . . . I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." The true church has existed since the day Jesus started it. All throughout church history, millions upon millions have entered into the spiritual body of believers by receiving Christ as their Lord and Saviour (Jn. 1:12; Rom. 10:13). If you have received Jesus Christ as your Saviour, then you are a member of the true church, no matter WHAT denomination you are associated with, and if you haven't received Him, then you are NOT a member of the true church, regardless of how many religious groups you join. Salvation is not in a church; it's in a PERSON--the Lord Jesus Christ.


    Water Baptism and Salvation



    Of the many heresies taught by the Church of Christ, Baptismal Regeneration is probably the most well known, and also the most harmful. This is the ancient pagan belief that a person must be baptized in water in order to receive cleansing from sin and the right to enter Heaven.



    Let's begin with page 2 of Delton Haun's tract, Must One Be Baptized to Go to Heaven? Haun says the following: "As we begin this brief study let us note the question concerns us, not Abraham, nor the thief on the cross. These men lived and died in past ages before Christ's death and before the terms of pardon were announced publicly on the day of Pentecost for all who lived in the Christian age."



    Notice how quickly Haun attempts to avoid the issue of the thief on the cross. This is because the thief on the cross was saved WITHOUT BEING BAPTIZED (Lk. 23:42-43). Was this really a "past age" before Christ's death or before the terms of pardon were announced publicly? No, it wasn't. The thief died AFTER Jesus died (Jn. 19:31-33), for no one ever died in His presence. The thief died in THIS PRESENT AGE, not in a past age, and the "terms of pardon" were made very clear a long time before Acts 2. The Gospel of John points out over and over again that one is saved by BELIEVING on Christ (Jn. 1:12, 3:16, 3:36, 5:24), not by water baptism. In fact, AFTER Jesus had came up from the dead and returned to Heaven, John tells us that we can have life through Christ's name by BELIEVING on Him, not by getting baptized in water (Jn. 20:31).



    Haun tells us on page three of his tract that "be baptized" means to be "immersed in water." This is where ALL Church of Christ people err so greatly. Church of Christ members are taught that there is only ONE kind of baptism: WATER baptism. The Bible teaches otherwise, for the Bible says that there are SOME baptisms which are NOT water baptisms. The Church of Christ wants you to think that all baptisms in the Bible are WATER baptisms, for this will cause you to think that Galatians 3:27 and Romans 6:3-4 are referring to water baptisms when they are NOT.



    There is one baptism which is far more important than water baptism, and this baptism is the SPIRIT baptism that the new Christian receives when he receives Christ as Saviour. I Corinthians 12:13 says, "For by one spirit are we all baptized into one body . . . " The Spirit of God baptizes, or immerses, the new believer into the spiritual body of Christ. This has nothing to do with water baptism, for there is no water anywhere in I Corinthians 12:13. So, to be baptized is NOT the same as being immersed in water. Immersion in water is only ONE KIND of baptism.



    To insist that all baptisms are water baptisms is to openly deny the word of God. John the Baptist clearly spoke of THREE different baptisms in ONE VERSE. He said in Matthew 3:11, "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:"

    Now, you've just seen THREE separate baptisms in one verse. Read it again, just to be sure. There are three baptisms in one verse, so it is unscriptural to assume that all baptisms are WATER baptisms. It is unscriptural to say that "be baptized" means to be "immersed in water," because to be baptized means to be immersed in ANYTHING. An immersion in fire is a baptism in fire; an immersion in water is a baptism in water, and an immersion in the Holy Ghost is a baptism in the Holy Ghost. When we read the words "baptize" and "baptism" we should NOT immediately assume that we are reading about a WATER baptism. Likewise, when we see the word "water," we should not immediately assume that we are reading about baptism, because we probably aren't (For example, the water in John 3:5 has nothing to do with water baptism.).



    Now, let's look at a few "proof texts" used by the Church of Christ to "prove" that water baptism is essential for Salvation.



    A famous one is found in Mark 16:16, where the Lord Jesus Christ says, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."



    According to the Church of Christ, one will be damned if he is not baptized. Haun says on page 5 of his tract that "Jesus is pointing out what it takes to be saved. He describes the kind of man who is pardoned. That man is one who believes and is baptized. Jesus did not say that the man who believes shall be saved or that the man who is baptized shall be saved. He said both belief (faith) and baptism are essential. It is like saying two plus two equals four. Faith plus baptism equals salvation."

    The Church of Christ specializes in confusing people by taking verses out of context and IGNORING the rest of the Bible. Did you read verse seventeen, which speaks of the apostolic signs of casting out devils and speaking with new tongues? Does the Church of Christ practice these signs? No, they don't. Do they practice verse eighteen by drinking deadly things, taking up serpents, and laying hands on the sick? No, they don't. Then why would they steal verse sixteen from its context and then leave the next two verses alone?



    The truth of the matter is that Mark 16:16 does NOT teach Baptismal Regeneration IN or OUT of it's proper context, and it certainly does not teach that "faith plus baptism equals salvation"! The verse plainly says, ". . . . he that believeth not shall be damned." One is damned for NOT BELIEVING. No one is damned for not being baptized. It is the sin of UNBELIEF that damns the lost soul to Hell, and this is very well confirmed by many portions of scripture, which Haun chooses to ignore in his tract:

    "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." John 1:12.



    "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:15-18.



    "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36.



    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life; and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." John 5:24.



    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life." John 6:47.



    ". . . . Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:30-31.



    "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Romans 4:5.



    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Romans 10:9.



    "Wherefore also it is contained in the scriptures, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded." I Peter 2:6.



    "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" John 11:25-26.



    Now, who in their right mind would choose to IGNORE these plain and simple Salvation verses by charging to Mark 16:16 and trying to confuse matters? Any confusion that may have arisen in Mark 16:16 was cleared up in the above verses. Whatever the Church of Christ THINKS that Mark 16:16 means is immaterial. According to the scripture that you've just read, a sinner is saved by BELIEVING on Jesus Christ, and a sinner is damned by NOT believing on Jesus Christ. That's perfectly clear to any honest reader.



    In Mark 16:16 the water baptism FOLLOWS the individual's belief as a good testimony, just as taking a seat follows stepping onto a school bus. The key element in one's Salvation is his BELIEF ON CHRIST ALONE. Water baptism is important, and it should always FOLLOW Salvation as a picture of the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Christ, but it cannot save anyone.



    The Church of Christ also uses Acts 2:38 for their beliefs about baptism: "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

    About this verse, Delton Haun's tract says the following on page 7: "Peter said it is necessary for men in this age to be baptized to obtain pardon. The preposition 'of' means 'in order to' and is so rendered in some translations. (Living Oracles, Anderson, Macnight, Goodspeed) The English Revised and American Revised say 'unto.'"

    Notice how the Church of Christ must refer to OTHER TRANSLATIONS in order to find support for their false teachings! This is a standard practice among the cults: ESTABLISH MORE THAN ONE AUTHORITY SO THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE THE ONE YOU PREFER AT ANY GIVEN TIME.



    We will stick with the Book that God uses, the King James Bible, and we'll show you WHY Acts 2:38 does not teach that a person has to baptized in water in order to be saved.



    First of all, the same Peter who is preaching in Acts 2:38 later learns a few things about Salvation that he did NOT know in Acts 2.



    We know this is true, because in Acts 15:11 Peter says something very different: ". . . . through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved. . ." In Acts 15:11 Peter says nothing about baptism. Why not? If it's so important, why didn't he mention it?



    Very simple. At the time of Acts 2:38, Peter didn't fully understand Salvation by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9). God had to reveal this to Peter, and, by the time we reach Acts 15:11, Peter gives us God's Salvation plan for today. Why is it that we never hear the Church of Christ quoting Acts 15:11? If God didn't stop with Acts 2:38, then why did the Church of Christ?



    Secondly, please notice that there are NO GENTILES (non Jews, like you and I) in Acts 2:38. Every individual present is a commandment keeping, Sabbath observing, temple worshipping Jew. Being gathered at Jerusalem on Pentecost, a Jewish feast day, these Jews heard Peter's stirring message about Christ, the One they had crucified. They came to realize that they had crucified their Messiah. They had already been told how to be saved in verse twenty-one (which the Church of Christ never mentions), and they were"pricked in their heart" in verse thirty-seven. So they asked, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" Notice that they did NOT ask,"What must I do to be saved?" (The answer to THAT question is found in Acts 16:31, not Acts 2:38.) These Jews wanted to know what to do in light of the fact that they had crucified their Messiah. This is a NATIONAL situation concerning Israel, not an individual situation dealing with lost sinners. No one in the chapter asks how to be saved.



    The third thing to notice about Acts 2:38 is that the term "for" does not always mean "in order to," like the Church of Christ teaches. A good example of this is found in Luke 15:14 where the Lord Jesus tells the cleansed leper to go and offer a sacrifice "for thy cleansing." The man wasn't offering a sacrifice IN ORDER TO be cleansed, because he had already been cleansed in verse 13. He was offering a sacrifice BECAUSE OF the cleansing that he already had. Therefore, the word "for" sometimes means "because of". For example, if you go to jail for stealing, is it IN ORDER for you to steal, or is it BECAUSE OF the stealing that you've already done? Also notice how "remission of sins" FOLLOWS belief in Acts 10:43, and PRECEDES water baptism.

    Number four, the Jews were told to be baptized "in the name of Jesus Christ," but WE were told to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost in Matthew 28:19. Acts 2:38 is obviously a special baptism for the first century Jews who had rejected Christ. They were told to be baptized in His name to show that they now RECEIVED Him.

    Also, please take note of the fact that the Jews of Acts chapter two received the Holy Ghost AFTER they were baptized. However, the believing Gentiles of Acts 10:44 received the Holy Ghost BEFORE they were baptized, and Peter was preaching there too, just as he was in Acts 2:38. Why didn't Peter tell the Gentiles in Acts 10:44 the same thing that he told the Jews in Acts 2:38? Answer: GOD DIDN'T GIVE HIM A CHANCE! God went ahead and sent the Holy Spirit before anything was said about baptism, because He didn't want anyone confusing baptism with Salvation.



    Now, this reveals to us a great truth about the Book of Acts: It is a Book of PROGRESSIVE REVELATION. God reveals more and more about salvation by grace through faith as the Book progresses. This should be expected when one considers the fact that this is the first century when God's dealings with man change from law to grace. Peter learns a valuable lesson about grace in Acts 10:14-15, and by Acts 15:11 he is well established in the doctrine of Salvation by Grace.



    Another verse used by the Church of Christ to teach Baptismal Regeneration is Acts 22:16. This is where Ananias tells Paul to ". . . . arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Revelation 1:5 plainly tells us that it is the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST that washes away sin, not water baptism, so there is obviously more to Acts 22:16 than the Church of Christ teaches.



    Why did Ananias say this to Paul? Well, WHO WAS Ananias? According to Acts 22:12, he was a Jewish proselyte who still followed the Old Testament law. He still followed the law because he, like Peter, did not yet have full understanding of Salvation by Grace. Obviously he didn't, or he wouldn't have been following the law. Being a "devout man according to the law", Ananias associated water baptism with the Old Testament laws of PURIFICATION (Jn. 11:55; 2:6; Num. 19:7-22; Acts 21:24-25), which were for washing the FLESH, not the soul. He didn't have a clear understanding of the Blood Atonement of Christ, which washes away all sin.



    The Church of Christ also uses I Peter 3:21 to teach that water baptism saves people, but, as anyone can clearly see, the verse says that it is a "figure," not a doctrine. Water baptism PICTURES the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. When a believer is baptized he is being identified with Jesus Christ, but it is his BELIEF that brings Salvation, as we've already seen.

    Romans 6:3-4 and Galatians 3:27 are frequently used by the Church of Christ to teach that water baptism is essential for Salvation, but there is no WATER baptism in either of these verses. These portions of scripture are speaking of the SPIRITUAL baptism of I Corinthians 12:13 which places the new believer into the body of Christ. Water baptism does NOT place anyone into the body of Christ. The Holy Ghost places us into Christ the moment we RECEIVE Christ as our Saviour, and this has nothing to do with water baptism. Remember, to "baptize" means to immerse. To be baptized into Christ is to be IMMERSED into Christ, not into the water (I Cor. 12:13).



    Paul said in I Corinthians 1:17 that, "Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel. . . " The "gospel" is defined in I Corinthians 15:1-4 as being the good news that Christ died, was buried, and then rose again on the third day, and the subject of water baptism isn't mentioned once. Baptism is important, and all true believers should submit to water baptism (Acts 10:47; 8:37-38; Mt. 28:18-20), but trusting water baptism for Salvation is a terrible and unscriptural mistake.



    Friend, you have seen how the Bible interprets itself. You have seen the TRUTH about the doctrines of the Church of Christ. According to Romans 16:17-18, these people should be MARKED and AVOIDED. We urge you to start looking for a true Bible believing church where the word of God is preached and taught correctly. If you've never been saved, we urge you to carefully and prayerfully read the Salvation verses that we've already presented. You can be saved this very moment, but you must repent of your sins (Lk. 13:3) and receive the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour. ONLY JESUS CHRIST can save you. Your church membership, your baptism, and your good intentions cannot save you. We urge you to repent of your sins and call upon the Lord to save you today, for tomorrow may be too late.


    #2
    Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post
    The truth of the matter is thatMark 16:16 does NOT teach Baptismal Regeneration IN or OUT of it's proper context, and it certainly does not teach that "faith plus baptism equals salvation"! The verse plainly says, ". . . . he that believeth not shall be damned." One is damned for NOT BELIEVING. No one is damned for not being baptized. It is the sin of UNBELIEF that damns the lost soul to Hell, and this is very well confirmed by many portions of scripture, which Haun chooses to ignore in his tract
    Quick question, do you realize that Lutherans teach "baptismal regeneration"?

    And lastly, do you believe that unbelief is a sin and that all sins of the Elect are atoned for by Jesus Christ? Note: this is not to suggest that the Elect are left in their unbelief. The point is whether there are some sins not covered by the blood of Christ?

    God bless,
    William
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      #3
      Originally posted by William View Post

      Quick question, do you realize that Lutherans teach "baptismal regeneration"?

      And lastly, do you believe that unbelief is a sin and that all sins of the Elect are atoned for by Jesus Christ? Note: this is not to suggest that the Elect are left in their unbelief. The point is whether there are some sins not covered by the blood of Christ?

      God bless,
      William

      yeah, i am not a lutheran.

      You need to define "unbelief". is that disbeliving in the existence of God after someone has shown you or explained God to you?

      Or do you mean ignorance. without/lacking knowledge.
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        #4
        "What is the church of Christ?

        "The Church is a body of baptized believers, called out from the world, over which Christ reigns as head, and which the Holy Spirit directs by means of the Word of Truth." - Guy N. Woods
        The church includes all who have accepted the invitation of Christ to leave sinful ways and follow him (Acts 2:47).
        In the Bible "church" did not refer to a meetinghouse. A meetinghouse (or church building) is the place where a church meets. "Church" refers to people. A church may meet in a house (Rom. 16:5)

        1. How and When did it Begin?
        Plans for the church were first made in heaven, for the church is a part of God's eternal purpose (Eph. 3:10).
        Jesus announced, during His personal ministry, He would build it (Matt. 16:18). He prepared for it by announcing its coming and the conditions of membership. The church He promised is the same as the kingdom of God that had been anticipated from Old Testament times (Dan. 2:44). Jesus is King over the kingdom and Head over the church. The same acts of obedience that put the sinner into the kingdom (John 3:5), put him into the church (Acts 2:38; 1 Cor. 12:13). Christians are citizens of the kingdom and members of the church.

        2. Why would one want to be a member of it?
        One cannot be saved and remain out of it any more than on can be saved and remain out of the family of God. If one says he is not a member of the church Jesus built he either isn't saved or doesn't understand. All spiritual blessings are in Christ (Eph 1:3). To be in Christ is to be in His body which is the church (Eph. 1:22,23).

        3. How does one get into the church?
        First, one must be saved. The Lord then adds him to it (Acts 2:47). There are no saved (forgiven) people out of the church Jesus built, nor are there alien sinners in the church he built. The line between the world and the church is distinct. On one side are the lost. On the other are the saved. The Dividing line is Obedience. Before one obeys the gospel he is out of it. After obedience he is in it.
        What are these Conditions?
        a). Hear the gospel (Rom. 10:17)
        b). Believe the gospel (Mk. 1:15)
        c). Repent of sins (Lk. 13:5)
        d). Confess Christ (Acts 8:37; Rom. 10:10)
        e). Be immersed (Acts 2:38; 1 Pet. 3:21)

        4. What is the work of the church?
        The church is to support the teaching of God's word (1 Cor 9:14), to edify (Eph 4:11,12), and relieve the afflicted (Gal. 6:10; 1 Tim. 5:9). Individual member are to live the Christian life, honor God, teach His word, support themselves as much as possible, and help others who have need. They are to pay their debts and be lawabiding citizens. They are to live pure lives, to be truthful and honest, and they are to honor Christ.

        5. The worship of the church.
        Christians are to assemble assemble regularly (Heb. 10:25). When assembled they are to:
        a). Sing Praises (Col. 3:16; Eph. 5:19).
        b). Pray (1 Thess. 5:17; 1 Tim. 2:1-3).
        c). Teach, or listen to teaching (Acts 20:7)
        d). Partake of the Lord's Supper, on the first day of the week (1 Cor. 11:23-27).
        e). Contribute financially, on the first day of the week (1 Cor 16:1,2)

        6. Who is head of the church?
        According to the Bible Christ is the head (Eph. 1:22,23; Col. 1:18). There is no evidence Jesus ever appointed anyone on earth to represent Him personally. The keys of Matt. 16:19 represent the gospel which is used by everyone to obtain the forgiveness of sins. Every lost man must obey the same unchangable gospel (Gal. 1:8,9)

        7. The destiny of the church.
        It is to continue till the end of time (Matt. 16:18), then it is to be delivered up to the Father (1 Cor. 15:24). Faithful Christians will enter heaven (Matt. 25:24). When this happens the church/kingdom will realize the last great promise of God - to be with Him forever.

        8. The non-denominational view.
        The Bible does not present the New Testament church as a body made up of all denominations, nor as a single denomination. The church of Christ existed before a denominational arrangement developed. Centuries after the church began, different doctrines were taught that had no Bible support and division occured. Then the denominational system developed with different names, creeds and churches. A non-denominational view looks back over these to the first century, when there was only one church.
        Members of the church of Christ seek to duplicate the non-denominational church of the first century. They take the Bible as their supreme guide. They reject doctrines and practices that were introduced after the close of the New Testament. They seek to be Christians only. They believe this is the one and only way to unite all who are seeking to follow Christ. No one has to give up anything taught in the Bible to become a member. Everyone must be ready to give up everything not taught in the the Bible.

        9. If you are interested in being a Christian
        only, seek out the church of Christ and see if these things are so. You have everything to gain. You are welcome to attend and listen. You have the opportunity to ask questions following the service, in privacy if you wish. Expect a Bible answer given courteously and with respect. Your eternal destiny may well depend on your decision.

        -By Delton Haun -"
        from Lincoln Church of Christ


        I thought it would be nice to read what Delton Haun and his church (the Church of Christ) believe and claim in their own words.
        Readers can now judge for themselves if the charges are true or false.
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          #5
          Im at work so I cannot read the whole post, but I will say beforehand that if I were to choose a denomonation it would be the Church of Christ. All but one of the most brilliant local Christians I have come across have been members of the Church of Christ.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Trist View Post
            Im at work so I cannot read the whole post, but I will say beforehand that if I were to choose a denomonation it would be the Church of Christ. All but one of the most brilliant local Christians I have come across have been members of the Church of Christ.
            Dispite the errors and problems it has theologically?

            Among other errors, they claim to be the ONLY TRUE CHURCH ( Funny, catholics, jw's, mormons, sda's ALL say the same thing about themselves! ), that you MUST be baptised in order to go to heaven amd that you can LOSE your salvation. These points are not what i would call "minors".


            "brilliant" in what what?

            the mormons generally live a "brilliant" life. no drugs, no alcohol, modesty, etc. but their religion is sending them to hell.


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              #7
              Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post

              Dispite the errors and problems it has theologically?

              Among other errors, they claim to be the ONLY TRUE CHURCH ( Funny, catholics, jw's, mormons, sda's ALL say the same thing about themselves! ), that you MUST be baptised in order to go to heaven amd that you can LOSE your salvation. These points are not what i would call "minors".


              "brilliant" in what what?

              the mormons generally live a "brilliant" life. no drugs, no alcohol, modesty, etc. but their religion is sending them to hell.

              Well it is quite obvious that one can lose their salvation and that one does need to be baptized... I am not even of their sect but after carefully reading the NT this is very basic.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Trist View Post

                Well it is quite obvious that one can lose their salvation and that one does need to be baptized... I am not even of their sect but after carefully reading the NT this is very basic.
                Great, i will start two new posts and we can discuss these issues.

                Thank you for replying and being respectful and polite.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Trist View Post

                  Well it is quite obvious that one can lose their salvation and that one does need to be baptized... I am not even of their sect but after carefully reading the NT this is very basic.
                  Baptismal regeneration - Christforums

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Calvarystudy View Post
                    You renounce Jesus' commandment which was to preach baptism at the end of Matthew. I hope you do not say that any of Jesus' commandments are not necessary for salvation in the future. Revelation 22:14-15 KJV

                    As for salvation; you must endure and hold onto it. You can let go and lose it. Matthew 24:13 KJV

                    I do not need superfluous paragraphs to back up what has been said in the Bible. The Holy Spirit is my helper; she guides me.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Trist View Post

                      You renounce Jesus' commandment which was to preach baptism at the end of Matthew. I hope you do not say that any of Jesus' commandments are not necessary for salvation in the future. Revelation 22:14-15 KJV

                      As for salvation; you must endure and hold onto it. You can let go and lose it. Matthew 24:13 KJV

                      I do not need superfluous paragraphs to back up what has been said in the Bible. The Holy Spirit is my helper; she guides me.
                      You did not read the post.

                      get back to me when you have.

                      If what is talking to you is female, it is NOT the Holy Spirit.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Trist View Post
                        The Holy Spirit is my helper; she guides me.
                        Reading one of your earlier posts, I thought that you should belong to the Church of Christ since you agree with what they teach, but I don't think they are so far from the truth that they would refer to the Holy Spirit as "she".
                        Clyde Herrin's Blog
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by theophilus View Post
                          Reading one of your earlier posts, I thought that you should belong to the Church of Christ since you agree with what they teach, but I don't think they are so far from the truth that they would refer to the Holy Spirit as "she".
                          I wondered about that, too. On the other hand, is the 'gender' of the Holy Spirit clearly indicated in scripture? "Father" and "Son" convey very strong and specific gender references, but "Spirit" ... I do not know if Trist is "wrong" (or can be proven right).

                          I found this information on Blue Letter Bible:

                          As mentioned before, the Greek word translated "spirit" is pneuma which means "wind," "breath" or "spirit." Like many languages, Greek attaches gender - masculine, feminine, or neuter - to each noun. The word pneuma is neuter. Does this mean the Holy Spirit is an impersonal force because it is found in the neuter gender?

                          Not The Same

                          Not at all. This is because grammatical gender is not the same as personal gender. The fact that a word is in the neuter gender has nothing to do with its personal gender.
                          Furthermore, ruach, the word for spirit in Hebrew, is in the feminine gender! This does not mean the Holy Spirit is a female!

                          Consequently, the neuter gender does not at all signify that the Holy Spirit is some impersonal force. He is indeed the personal Spirit of God.
                          So the 'gender' of the words pneuma and ruach cannot help us.
                          I find it a fascinating question ... the Holy Spirit: Him, Her or It? Why?
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by atpollard View Post
                            I wondered about that, too. On the other hand, is the 'gender' of the Holy Spirit clearly indicated in scripture? "Father" and "Son" convey very strong and specific gender references, but "Spirit" ... I do not know if Trist is "wrong" (or can be proven right).

                            I found this information on Blue Letter Bible:



                            So the 'gender' of the words pneuma and ruach cannot help us.
                            I find it a fascinating question ... the Holy Spirit: Him, Her or It? Why?
                            In my opinion, which has the possibility of being wrong, this entity in quesiton is NOT the Holy Spriit, but a demon.
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                              #15
                              I said "she" rather than She, because the Holy Spirit has predominantly masculine attributes, but the attributes which guide me are clearly feminine. I will back up what I say through the word as usual. Proverbs 3:13-18 KJV

                              The Holy Spirit gives wisdom and understanding to all who will walk alongside. The Holy Spirit increases one's length of days, brings peace to those in distress and helps grant entry unto the tree of life in the kingdom.

                              I am pounced upon like prey over little things as though the words I've been led towards by the Holy Spirit are so offensive that they must be killed, but I've never not backed my statements with verse.
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