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  2. DavidM

    The Binding of Satan

    It wasn't a matter of opinion. That list of people was irrelevant to this topic.
  3. The Office of the First Lady has notified the Secret Service after actor Peter Fonda called for kidnapping Melania and Donald Trump’s son, Barron, The Daily Caller has learned exclusively. In a tweet sent Wednesday, the actor called for Barron to be “ripped” from Melania’s arms and put in a cage “with pedophiles.” Spokesperson for the first lady Stephanie Grisham told The Daily Caller that the Secret Service has been “notified” of the threat. “The tweet is sick and irresponsible and USSS has been notified,” Grisham said. (RELATED: Here Are The Photos Of Obama’s Illegal Immigrant Detention Facilities The Media Won’t Show You) Fonda has been on a twitter tirade against White House officials, particularly females and children, over the past few days. He called for the public caging and rape of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristjen Nielsen in a tweet Tuesday. In the vulgar tweet, Fonda said “Kristjen Nielsen is a lying gash that should be put in a cage and poked at by passersby.” He continued, “The gash should be pilloried in Lafayette Square naked and whipped by passersby while being filmed for posterity.” Read More: http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/melania-calls-secret-service-after-actor-peter-fonda-threatens-to-kidnap-barron-trump/
  4. William

    The Binding of Satan

    Why wouldn't it suggest that because demons are able to be cast out that the proof of Satan bound is now? The binding of Satan is evident everywhere (nations, tribes, and tongues) the Gospel is preached. Satan's house is plundered as his goods (Elect) are drawn from out of the house of Satan. God bless, William
  5. William

    Eternal Election

    I pray for my unbelieving loved ones also, I petition that God regenerates them in His timing if it is his will. I pray that they are drawn to Jesus by His Spirit. Here's a good model prayer for regeneration: Lord, take out of her flesh the heart of stone and give his/her a heart of flesh. Cause him/her to walk in your statutes. Put love for yourself into his/her heart. Open the eyes of his/her heart to see the glory of the gospel. Grant repentance to him/her and free his/her from the devil. Make him/her alive together with Christ. Save him/her by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit. God bless, William
  6. Fastfredy0

    Eternal Election

    Aside: I pray every night that my 1 yr old grand daughter was/is/before the foundation of the earth/eternally? "known" by God.
  7. William

    Eternal Election

    "like" precious faith. In the OT the Holy Spirit could come upon someone (unbeliever) to perform a task and then leave. The life of Saul serves an example: 1 Samuel 10:10 When they came to there to the hill, there was a group of prophets to meet him; then the Spirit of God came upon him, and he prophesied among them. 1 Samuel 16:14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, a distressing Spirit from the Lord troubled him . Just as in the NT: Hebrews 6: 1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 and of instruction about washings,[a] the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits. 4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. In Hebrews 6 it is possible for someone to "taste" the fruits of the Holy Spirit but fall away. There is no difference between the OT and NT in that the Holy Spirit can come upon an unbeliever and leave. This is not to suggest that the Holy Spirit does not permanently indwell believers. John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. God bless, William
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  9. William

    Eternal Election

    Calvinist are all familiar with the Arminian use of foreknowledge. Consider: "The meaning of “foreknew” in Romans 8:29 "God has always possessed perfect knowledge of all creatures and of all events. There has never been a time when anything past, present, or future was not fully known to Him.* But it is not His knowledge of future events (of what people would do, etc.) which is referred to in Romans 8:29,30, for Paul clearly states that those whom He foreknew He predestined, He called, He justified, etc. Since all men are not predestined, called, and justified, it follows that all men were not foreknown by God in the sense spoken of in verse. "It is for this reason that the Arminians are forced to add some qualifying notion. They read into the passage some idea not contained in the language itself such as those whom He foreknew would believe etc., He predestined, called and justified. But according to the Biblical usage of the words “know,” “knew,” and “foreknew” there is not the least need to make such an addition, and since it is unnecessary, it is improper. When the Bible speaks of God knowing particular individuals, it often means that He has special regard for them, that they are the objects of His affection and concern. For example in Amos 3:2, God, speaking to Israel says,“You only have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.” The Lord knows about all the families of the earth, but He knew Israel in a special way.* They were His chosen people whom He had set His heart upon. See Deuteronomy 7:7,8; 10:15. Because Israel was His in a special sense He chastised them, cf. Hebrews 12:5,6.*God, speaking to Jeremiah, said, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you,” (Jeremiah 1:5). The meaning here is not that God knew about Jeremiah but that He had a special regard for the prophet before He formed him in his mother’s womb. Jesus also used the word “knew” in the sense of personal, intimate awareness. “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers’ “ (Matt. 7:22,23). Our Lord cannot be understood here as saying, I knew nothing about you, for it is quite evident that He knew all too much about them – their evil character and evil works; hence, His meaning must be, I never knew you intimately nor personally, I never regarded you as the objects of my favor or love. Paul uses the word in the same way in I Corinthians 8:3, “But if one loves God, one is known by him,” and also II Timothy 2:19, “the Lord knows those who are His.” The Lord knows about all men but He only knows those “who love Him, who are called according to His purpose” (Rom 8:28) – those who are His! "Murray’s argument in favor of this meaning of “foreknew” is very good.*“It should be observed that the text says ‘whom He foreknew’; whom is the object of the verb and there is no qualifying addition.* This, of itself, shows that, unless there is some other compelling reason, the expression ‘whom he foreknew’ contains within itself the differentiation which is presupposed. If the apostle had in mind some ‘qualifying adjunct’ it would have been simple to supply it. Since he adds none we are forced to inquire if the actual terms he uses can express the differentiation implied. The usage of Scripture provides an affirmative answer. Although the term ‘foreknew’ is used seldom in the New Testament, it is altogether indefensible to ignore the meaning so frequently given to the word ‘know’ in the usage of Scripture; ‘foreknow’ merely adds the thought of ‘beforehand’ to the word ‘know’. Many times in Scripture ‘know’ has a pregnant meaning which goes beyond that of mere cognition. It is used in a sense practically synonymous with ‘love’, to set regard upon, to know with peculiar interest, delight, affection, and action (cf. Gen 18:19; Exod. 2:25; Psalm 1:6; 144:3; Jer. 1:5; Amos 3:2; Hosea 13:5; Matt 7:23; I Cor. 8:3; Gal. 4:9; II Tim. 2:19; I John 3:1).* There is no reason why this import of the word ‘know’ should not be applied to ‘foreknow’ in this passage, as also in 11:2 where it also occurs in the same kind of construction and where the thought of election is patently present (cf. 11:5,6). When this import is appreciated, then there is no reason for adding any qualifying notion and ‘whom He foreknew’ is seen to contain within itself the differentiating element required. It means ‘whom he set regard upon’ or ‘whom he knew from eternity with distinguishing affection and delight’ and is virtually equivalent to ‘whom he foreloved’. This interpretation, furthermore, is in agreement with the efficient and determining action which is so conspicuous in every other link of the chain – it is God who predestinates, it is God who calls, it is God who justifies, and it is He who glorifies. Foresight of faith would be out of accord with the determinative action which is predicated of God in these other instances and would constitute a weakening of the total emphasis at the point where we should least expect it….It is not the foresight of difference but the foreknowledge that makes difference to exist, not a foresight that recognizes existence but the foreknowledge that determines existence. It is a sovereign distinguishing love.” God bless, William
  10. Anto9us

    Eternal Election

    On Christforums.org, Anto9us is ALL of my usernames, though that is not my username on ALL the boards I go to. I know that not literally ALL of Judea came to the Jordan to be baptized by John... SOME might give Arminianism a bad name; I am an Arminian whose flame-thrower has been re-fitted to battling non-trinnies and not-godders, extremely prevalent on the 6-7 boards I go to, in this context, Calvinists are close cousins it seems. Piece of my Heart and Me and Bobby McGee were other Janis Joplin songs. She is long deceased. On one board, I did create a sock-puppet -- Mahmoud Mohammed Alguhari -- a Muslim; and I intended to have debates about Islam with myself, but the administration there did not go for it. Arminians are divided on Eternal Security, there are OSAS Arminians, and OSnAS Arminians. To paraphrase Arminius himself, it is not possible for a believer to lose their salvation, but it MIGHT be possible for a person to cease being a believer. His followers (the Remonstrants) did not want to be pinned down on either OSAS or OSnAS. Arminians believe in predestination BY FOREKNOWLEDGE; most accept the T in TULIP, but not the ULIP, though we may define Total Depravity slightly differently than Calvinists. Classical Arminians generally look on predestination regarding INDIVIDUALS, some Arminians stress CORPORATE predestination, that God decreed that a CLASS of people - BELIEVERS - would be saved. The Corporate angle is a stretch, imo, though there are statements of that nature in Arminus' writings -- most but not ALL his statements on predestination are that God foreknew who would believe and persevere in believing. ALL of my statements are correct.
  11. Which Reformed denomination do you attend? I see that you're Christian Reformed, but the questions you ask are not characteristic of someone Reformed. How long have you been Reformed? God bless, William
  12. NetChaplain

    True Consecration

    Hi Nolidad, and appreciate your replies! Wanted to point out the only place in the literal and many other translations that the phrase "being sanctified" is used is Rom 15:16 ("that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost"); and this is just denoting a present tense of condition, i.e. "since they are sanctified by the Holy Ghost." The most consistent reading reading is "are sanctified," which parallels the usages of the word "sanctified" in the NT intending present tense. Young's Literal Translation: "he hath perfected to the end those sanctified; Webster: "he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." KJV: "he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Darby: "he has perfected in perpetuity the sanctified." I think many confuse sanctification with the progressive conformation of the believer's walk and not the stat and condition of the soul, which is the same for holiness, righteousness, justification, all are conditions of the believer at rebirth and never admit in degree (exists only in one degree, i.e nobody is holier, justified, sanctified or righteous than any other believer. But our faith admits in degrees because we are all at varying strengths of faith, which is commensurate with our understanding and applications of God's word as taught by His Spirit to each according to our level of maturity in our Christian walk in Christ's image. Blessings!
  13. Forest

    Eternal Election

    In 2 Peter 3:9, in order to keep this text in context, we have to consider who Peter is speaking to, in which chapter 1:1 tells us that he is speaking to them that have obtained (received) like precious faith. Peter even includes himself by using the word "us-ward" in 3:9. The word "any" and "all" is referring to those that have received like precious faith. The word "perish" in Strong's definition means "lose". It is possible that those with like precious faith could lose their fellowship with God if they did not repent. I hope that I didn't hurt any ones feelings by interjecting my thoughts.
  14. Origen of Alexandria (c. 184 – c. 253) also known as Origen Adamantius, was a Hellenistic scholar, ascetic, and early Christian theologian who was born and spent the first half of his career in Alexandria. He was a prolific writer who wrote roughly 2,000 treatises in multiple branches of theology, including textual criticism, biblical exegesis and hermeneutics, philosophical theology, preaching, and spirituality. He was one of the most influential figures in early Christian theology, apologetics, and asceticism. He has been described as "the greatest genius the early church ever produced". Origen sought martyrdom with his father at a young age, but was prevented from turning himself in to the authorities by his mother. When he was eighteen years old, Origen became a catechist at the Catechetical School of Alexandria. He came into conflict with Demetrius, the bishop of Alexandria, in 231 after he was ordained as a presbyter by his friend, the bishop of Caesarea, while on a journey to Athens through Palestine. Demetrius condemned Origen for insubordination and accused him of having castrated himself and of having taught that even Satan would eventually attain salvation, an accusation which Origen himself vehemently denied. Origen founded the Christian School of Caesarea, where he taught logic, cosmology, natural history, and theology, and became regarded by the churches of Palestine and Arabia as the ultimate authority on all matters of theology. He was tortured for his faith during the Decian persecution in 250 and died three to four years later from his injuries. Eusebius of Caesarea (c. AD 260 – c.339) also known as Eusebius Pamphili (from the Greek: Εὐσέβιος τοῦ Παμϕίλου), was a historian of Christianity, exegete, and Christian polemicist. He became the bishop of Caesarea Maritima about 314 AD. Together with Pamphilus, he was a scholar of the Biblical canon and is regarded as an extremely learned Christian of his time.[1] He wrote Demonstrations of the Gospel, Preparations for the Gospel, and On Discrepancies between the Gospels, studies of the Biblical text. As "Father of Church History" (not to be confused with the title of Church Father), he produced the Ecclesiastical History, On the Life of Pamphilus, the Chronicle and On the Martyrs. During the Council of Antiochia (325) he was excommunicated for subscribing to the heresy of Arius, and thus withdrawn during the First Council of Nicaea where he accepted that the Homoousion referred to the Logos. Never recognized as a Saint, he became counselor of Constantine the Great, and with the bishop of Nicomedia he continued to polemicize against Saint Athanasius of Alexandria, Church Fathers, since he was condemned in the First Council of Tyre in 335. Constantine the Great (27 February c. 272 AD – 22 May 337 AD) also known as Constantine I or Saint Constantine,[3] was Roman Emperor from 306 to 337 AD. He was the son of Flavius Valerius Constantius, a Roman Army officer of Illyrian origins. His mother Helena was Greek. His father became Caesar, the deputy emperor in the west, in 293 AD. Constantine was sent east, where he rose through the ranks to become a military tribune under Emperors Diocletian and Galerius. In 305, Constantius raised himself to the rank of Augustus, senior western emperor, and Constantine was recalled west to campaign under his father in Britannia (Britain). Constantine was acclaimed as emperor by the army at Eboracum (modern-day York) after his father's death in 306 AD, and he emerged victorious in a series of civil wars against Emperors Maxentius and Licinius to become sole ruler of both west and east by 324 AD. Constantine was the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity. Although he lived most of his life as a pagan, he joined the Christian faith on his deathbed, being baptised by Eusebius of Nicomedia. He played an influential role in the proclamation of the Edict of Milan in 313, which declared religious tolerance for Christianity in the Roman empire. He called the First Council of Nicaea in 325 that produced the statement of Christian belief known as the Nicene Creed. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was built on his orders at the purported site of Jesus' tomb in Jerusalem and became the holiest place in Christendom. The Papal claim to temporal power in the High Middle Ages was based on the supposed Donation of Constantine (now regarded as a forgery). He is venerated as a saint by the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church. He has historically been referred to as the "First Christian Emperor," and he did heavily promote the Christian Church. Some modern scholars, however, debate his beliefs and even his comprehension of the Christian faith itself. I will let the readers decide how likely and reliable the story by avbunyan is given the basic facts of the people involved (can you say "time travel").
  15. I do not know anything about the scholars except what i read and other forums . Those of you claiming KJO remind me of the RCC of old, wanting the masses to stay as uneducated as possible. Authorized version? Authorized by who? A man named James Stuart. I am thankful to King James Personally i like the King James it is by far my favorite.
  16. How am I going to have any fun now atpollard? lol
  17. Knotical

    The Liberal Two-step

    Here is the latest: https://politico.com/story/2018/06/20/im-ashamed-of-what-theyre-doing-backlash-grows-for-trump-and-his-aides-655498
  18. Origen repeatedly asked Demetrius to ordain him as a priest, but Demetrius continually refused. In around 231, Demetrius sent Origen on a mission to Athens. Along the way, Origen stopped in Caesarea, where he was warmly greeted by the bishops Theoctistus and Alexander of Jerusalem, who had become his close friends during his previous stay. While he was visiting Caesarea, Origen asked Theoctistus to ordain him as a priest.Theoctistus gladly complied. Upon learning of Origen's ordination, Demetrius was outraged and issued a condemnation declaring that Origen's ordination by a foreign bishop was an act of insubordination. Eusebius reports that, as a result of Demetrius's condemnations, Origen decided not to return to Alexandria and to instead take up permanent residence in Caesarea. John Anthony McGuckin, however, argues that Origen had probably already been planning to stay in Caesarea. The Palestinian bishops declared Origen the chief theologian of Caesarea. Firmilian, the bishop of Caesarea Mazaca in Cappadocia, was such a devoted disciple of Origen that he begged him to come to Cappadocia and teach there. Demetrius raised a storm of protests against the bishops of Palestine and the church synod in Rome itself. According to Eusebius, Demetrius published the salacious allegation that Origen had secretly castrated himself, a capital offense under Roman law at the time and one which would have made Origen's ordination invalid, since eunuchs were forbidden from becoming priests. Demetrius also alleged that Origen had taught a form of apokatastasis, which held that all beings, including even Satan himself, would eventually attain salvation. This allegation probably arose from a misunderstanding of Origen's argument during a debate with the Valentinian heretic Candidus.[6] Candidus had argued in favor of predestination by declaring that the Devil was beyond salvation. Origen had responded by arguing that, if the Devil is destined for eternal damnation, it was on account of his actions, which were the result of his own free will. Therefore, Origen had declared that Satan was only morally reprobate, not absolutely reprobate. Origen was not banished. Origen believed in Free Will (not a heresy) and not Arianism. Arianism is a nontrinitarian Christological doctrine which asserts the belief that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who was begotten by God the Father at a point in time, a creature distinct from the Father and is therefore subordinate to him, but the Son is also God (i.e. God the Son). Arian teachings were first attributed to Arius (c. AD 256–336), a Christian presbyter in Alexandria of Egypt. The teachings of Arius and his supporters were opposed to the theological views held by Homoousian Christians, regarding the nature of the Trinity and the nature of Christ. The Arian concept of Christ is based on the belief that the Son of God did not always exist but was begotten by God the Father. Origen of Alexandria (c. 184 – c. 253) was dead before Arius (c. AD 256–336) was born to create his Arian teachings, so could not have been banished for them. (wikipedia is your friend for checking simple facts like these) ORIGEN
  19. Knotical

    The Liberal Two-step

    Make a law that forces the separation of illegal immigrants from their kids when they come over the border and get caught (circa 1997 Bill Clinton, thank you very much). The republicans are now forced to enforce this law. The liberals feign ignorance about the past and become outraged the republicans are supporting this law. The republicans are now forced to do something about a law the liberals are actually responsible for passing. Rinse and repeat.
  20. lol Who ever it was it wasn't Origen. What? None of that had anything to do with Origen. All of your claims about Origen are wrong. It is as simply as that.
  21. Reformed are often 'Amillennial' (meaning they believe that we are living in the 1000 year reign of Jesus right now and it is not exactly 1000 years). So there is no 'pre-tribulation rapture', then a Kingdom of Jesus on Earth, then a 'judgement day' like most Pentecostals believe. For 'Amillenials', the second coming and rapture and day of judgement all happen at the same time ... the "last day". If it is not preached, that is just the decision of that particular preacher. There is a Judgement Day.
  22. Since 90% of your post really has nothing to do with Bible Translations (who cares what Origen believed, did it impact what he copied?), could you just provide some support for your claim that Wescott & Hort is based on "Origen's work from Alexandria Egypt" and that modern Translations are based on the Wescott & Hort translation of 1881. [I happen to know that neither 'fact' is accurate, but am curious what sources you are getting your information from.]
  23. CDF47

    Trauma Surgeon Looking for Answers

    PTSD can be really bad with flashbacks and nightmares. I know it. I lost my mother 11 years ago and that was the hardest part of my life. Right now I am still trying to get over my recent divorce from February but I am still struggling with that.
  24. theophilus


    Welcome to the forum.
  25. Well the first three chapters of Genesis aren't literal. One thing I know, it's easy to twist history which is what KJV only advocates do. They have that in common with Mormonism and with Islam: The Bible was corrupted (all versions) except the one we use. Origen learned philosophy as did Paul. So what? And the Hexapla had six columns, not 5. Except some sources say there were 8. The Hexapla was destroyed so all we have are fragments of writings and copies. But let's all use a version that cannot be fully understood easily due to its archaic language, many words of which are no longer used and therefore meaningless. And lets point to every other version of the Bible and claim they are corrupt except for the one used by KJV only peeps. Just like a cult.
  26. RazeontheRock

    SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, a fresh idea.

    When were schools not prisons? In some parts of the country, schools are secured and access is limited. Of course this is not perfect, but mass shootings don't happen in those areas. This is not a new idea. It's ONE part of a successful plan, that was perfectly obvious 19 years ago in the wake of Columbine. The only thing that's kept us from implementing sound plans are the idiots screaming for more laws. As if criminals were going to suddenly obey laws.
  27. Becky

    The Binding of Satan

    We have different opinions, i believe they fit the context and are relevant. They are newspaper theologians , profiting from their outside the scriptures teaching. They are the well known ones . They are dispensationalist.
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